Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27208 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2001 17:34:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2001 17:34:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 173 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2001 17:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 22 Jan 2001 17:28:36 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14KkbD-0002lg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:17:47 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Kkb9-0002lb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:17:43 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.44] (helo=gemini) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #4) id 14Kkat-0000Lw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:17:27 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <1061.200101221717@gemini> From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:21:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Re:VA3LK Log / More Tests In-reply-to: <3A6C3BD6.7C917AC0@usa.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF Group, Alberto wrote: > > Just a remark. If you want to dig deep into the noise, you must use > resolutions of 5 or 10 milli Hertz. At these resolutions the span covered > by a spectrogram is at maximum a couple of Hertz, so the 10 or 20 Hz > spread would mean that the biggest part of the stations will be outside > the screen. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD Of course, it's a question of degree - if 40milliHz does not produce a signal, you could always try a narrower resolution. It does not really matter if the dots merge together if the purpose is only to identify a signal is present.To facilitate this, the signal I intend to use will have about 5 90s dashes and spaces, followed by a "missing" dash. Hopefully, this will make it a bit more distinctive, and if viewed at higher resolution, the dashes will merge to produce one long dash and a shorter space. I think this should be easy to set up using ON7YD's QRS keyer software in beacon mode, which will also do normal CW ID's How narrow a frequency range we can use depends on how accurately the TX frequency can be set - my synthesiser does 0.1Hz steps, and if everybody had the same, quite a few people could fit into 2Hz bandwidth. But whether this can be done depends on the equipment at the individual stations involved. Since Larry's signal is visible with quite good SNR at times in 42mHz resolution, and VE1ZJ has seen several signals with 0.3Hz resolution, I think 42mHz resolution might do the job. If it does not, it will certainly take a major re-think to achieve a QSO! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU