Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9E02A380000A1; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RdhK9-0002Ey-5U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:00:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RdhK8-0002Ep-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:00:36 +0000 Received: from smtpout5.laposte.net ([193.253.67.230] helo=smtpout.laposte.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RdhK6-0007UW-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:00:36 +0000 Received: from wwinf8212 ([10.99.54.225]) by mwinf8510-out with ME id CC0U1i0034rYm4y03C0Ujy; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:00:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:00:28 +0100 From: "manginbenoit.pro" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <10448571.81500.1324555228145.JavaMail.www@wwinf8212> In-Reply-To: <192D537E-D262-4F22-A985-30E72878EDBF@numeo.fr> References: <30861193.35411.1324494385252.JavaMail.www@wwinf8214> <000401ccc018$6efdb2d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <000e01ccc01b$d9d8dd20$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <29523937.28914.1324501254659.JavaMail.www@wwinf8301> <4EF26137.1080700@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <301952.39427.1324535683850.JavaMail.www@wwinf8301> <13421988.59017.1324541453448.JavaMail.www@wwinf8211> <000f01ccc085$db547370$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <17963500.64012.1324544889275.JavaMail.www@wwinf8210> <002701ccc093$214c3630$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <192D537E-D262-4F22-A985-30E72878EDBF@numeo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [90.55.129.60] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF/MF X-Band Request Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:442222496:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084ef31c2b5ca0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none GA John, Indeed an air core multiturn loop proves its sensitivity, at least on paper= . Plus, the=20 directional nulling possibilities do really interest me. But X-Banding with Mal's or Stefan's LF signals can surely be done via a si= mple=20 miniwhip. But s!:;!: happens, sometimes. RXing definetely suffers from something nasty here, as I did not even hear = a friend of=20 mine's MF tests last night, although an hour and a half before IQ2MI was cl= early=20 audible. The whip's preamp must have not appreciated something in between the two re= ception=20 attempts. Or maybe is it the SDR. By the way, I will try to hear something = with the=20 FT897 and LF/MF converter tonight. If OK, the SDR must be the failing link. 73, de F8GRY/Ben > Message du 22/12/11 12:11 > De : "John Rabson"=20 > A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Copie =C3=A0 :=20 > Objet : Re: LF: Re: LF/MF X-Band Request > > Ben, >=20 > On receive it is the SNR that matters. It is a good idea to have a loop (= preferably=20 rotatable) as well as a long wire, so you can choose which gives better rec= eption.=20 >=20 > I have found a 2x 2 metre air-cored loop very effective for receive on 13= 7.=20 >=20 > 73 > John F5VLF >=20 > On 22 Dec 2011, at 11:19CET, mal hamilton wrote: >=20 > > Hi Ben > > RX antennas seem to be the problem for most. A very effective antenna i= s a > > piece of insulated wire as long and as high as possible resonated for t= he > > frequency of interest and a good sensitive RX. All other types of small > > antennas ie ferrite rods, micro probes, etc are alright for receiving > > broadcast high power stations or amateur QRSS acty but poor for CW > > reception. > > I have noticed EU stn on LF can only work their neighbours using QRS be= cause > > of poor RX antennas, not enough sensitivity for CW. > > Sending out a Beacon is the easy part but conducting a cw QSO is a diff= erent > > ball game. > > Hope you get yours fixed > > mal/g3kev > >=20 > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "manginbenoit.pro"=20 > > To:=20 > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM > > Subject: Re:LF: Re: LF/MF X-Band Request > >=20 > >=20 > > GM Mal, > >=20 > >=20 > > That's actually the case. RX problem still here. I heard a signal in th= e > > noise, tried > > to dig it out, but did not success. > >=20 > > Your signal should not be so hard to copy from this QTH. > >=20 > > Now QRT too, trying to solve the thing. > >=20 > > TNX trying. I'll post later on abt problem solving and back on trafic. > >=20 > > de F8GRY/Ben > >=20 > >=20 > >> Message du 22/12/11 09:53 > >> De : "mal hamilton" > >> A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Copie =C3=A0 : > >> Objet : LF: Re: LF/MF X-Band Request > >>=20 > >> Om > >> You seem to be on BEACON MODE and not listening. > >> I have called you but you are not responding or your RX/ANTENNA is not > >> working > >> Now QRT here > >> de G3KEV > >>=20 > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "manginbenoit.pro" > >> To: > >> Cc: "rcf5kmb googlegroups com" > >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:10 AM > >> Subject: LF: LF/MF X-Band Request > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> GM All, > >>=20 > >> Starting CQing X-Band on 7022, QSX 136.500, seems the SDR is in better > >> health now. > >>=20 > >> de F8GRY/Ben > >>=20 > >> Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, = =C3=A7a vous > >> tente ? > >> Je cr=C3=A9e ma bo=C3=AEte mail www.laposte.net > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >=20 > > Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, = =C3=A7a vous > > tente ? > > Je cr=C3=A9e ma bo=C3=AEte mail www.laposte.net > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, =C3= =A7a vous tente ? 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