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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan. Fully understand. 73. Ken. M0KHW Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [217.146.183.113 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: 24b65a258fa7a3a87cfdaa03bb2f3176 Subject: RE: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-di06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da60a5052387b591c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan. Fully understand. 73. Ken. M0KHW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan = Sch=E4fer Sent: 13 September 2012 20:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite Hi Ken, OK but later. I want to try some modifications, i.e. using the 500 Ohm=20 input and the 18 kOhm output, to have some gain. If this does not affect = the matching, i would prefer that... 73, Stefan Am 13.09.2012 20:43, schrieb Ken: > Stefan. > Thank you for the info, maybe sometime you will be able to post the circuit? > > 73. > > Ken > > M0KHW > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan = Sch=E4fer > Sent: 13 September 2012 12:26 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite > > Ah yes, Thomas was faster, damn ;-) > > Another image from the experimental setup, using source followers > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/Mechanical_filter_with_source-follow= ers > .JPG > The results have been very good last night! > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 13.09.2012 13:12, schrieb Thomas Rosenkranz: > =20 >> Hy Ken, >> >> the name of the mechanical filter is FZ02 >> http://www.oppermann-electronic.de/html/hf-spezialbauteile.html >> >> http://dm4tr.bplaced.net/index.php?section=3DReceiver >> >> 73 >> Thomas DM4TR >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:28 AM >> Subject: LF: RE: MF tonite >> >> >> Hi Stefan. >> What mechanical filter are you using?. >> 73. >> Ken >> M0KHW >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan = Sch=E4fer >> Sent: 12 September 2012 21:02 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: MF tonite >> >> Christian, >> >> Are you QRV tonite? I would like to see or better hear the difference = of >> my RX performance when using my band filter i was testing in the >> afternoon. >> >> It is the mechanical filter which uses source followers at the input = and >> output, to provide a constant accurate impedance matching to keep the >> passband ripple as low as possible. The afternoons tests have been = very >> promising, see https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/MF%20Filter.png >> This is the frequency response: >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/473%20kHz%20ZF%20Filter%2040%20dB.pn= g >> =20 > =20 >> >> There should be a much better image rejection now and so maybe a few >> more dB SNR... Unfortunately the filter does not cover the 502 kHz >> region. But this problem will be gone in some months... >> >> Will be on 472.5 kHz soon. >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >