Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB1DWICS001476 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:32:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a3kya-0005Se-UP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:28:12 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a3kya-0005SV-97 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:28:12 +0000 Received: from smtpout5.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.80] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a3kxW-00033U-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:28:11 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.133]) by mwinf5d67 with ME id oDSn1r00Q2sbAAf03DSo7i; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:26:51 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:26:51 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.133 Message-ID: <0D650B732F9241869EC3A05D0677466F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299841@servigilant.vigilant.local>,,<579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299A20@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299D22@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B299D22@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:26:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 13ab3b92a1d6fe31703d8b43bc54a712 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12C3B.EDFE65A0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5480 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12C3B.EDFE65A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting there Luis ! Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH ,=20 Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good , you = need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with 8% fade , = but, signal must be holding up ...=20 73-G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi MF Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation conditions = lowered extra dBs=20 Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search -37dB = from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz = with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Devon 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB in = Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir 1519,0 Hz = with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 0 IM98wn 0.02 = DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39=20 =20 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 0 IM98wn 0.02 = DJ0ABR JN68nt 1556 39=20 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98wn 0.02 = G3XKR IO70ux 1419 348=20 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 0 IM98wn 0.02 = F5WK IN99ef 1192 355=20 Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? :-O Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX !=20 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez [luis@vigilant.es] Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Let's go step by step=20 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment .. May be 10 dB at least !=20 G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi Graham, MF Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really outstanding :-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at 7Km when = injecting -33dBm Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from DH5RAE and = DJ0ABR 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98wn 0.05 = DJ0ABR JN68nt 1556 39 =20 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 0 IM98wn 0.05 = EA5CV IM98ol 59 261 =20 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 0 IM98wn 0.05 = DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39 =20 I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it when I get = home in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx power indicator and Opera info to notice the = change 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Luis=20 That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought you where = running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji 73-G, >From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB All OP8 decodes from psk-map=20 EA5DOM SO5AS 600m OPERA 2210 km 18:10:11=20 EA5DOM SV8CS-5 600m OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12=20 SV8CS EA5DOM 600m OPERA 1819 km 19:20:11=20 EA5DOM EI8JK 600m OPERA 1633 km 18:46:12=20 EA5DOM G8HUH 600m OPERA 1430 km 18:22:12=20 EA5DOM G3XKR 600m OPERA 1420 km 23:10:11=20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Thank you Tony That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) Thank you for keeping your monitor working 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony Baldwin Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try = different power levels again. 73, Tony, EI8JK ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D12C3B.EDFE65A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Getting there  Luis !
 
Your 6 dB  in hand  with  G3XKR ,   may be = more=20 with G8HUH ,
 
Go for the  big  1-0    TEN=20    mW , the  stats are not  good ,  = you =20 need  to  get a  peak  aligned with the  qsb ,=20 but  with   8% fade , but, signal must be  = holding =20 up ...
 
73-G,

From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Hi MF

Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation = conditions lowered extra dBs=20

Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search = -37dB from=20 SV8CS-5 at 1819Km

00:34    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in = Albir=20 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
00:34    477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD=20 Devon

01:47    477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km = -37 dB in=20 Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
01:46    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in = Albir 1519,0=20 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m

In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from:

2015-12-01 03:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -27   0   IM98wn   0.02   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39 
2015-11-30 22:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -29   0   IM98wn   0.02   DJ0ABR   JN68nt   1556   39
2015-12-01 03:00   EA5DOM   0.475608   -30   0   IM98wn   0.02   G3XKR   IO70ux   1419   348
2015-11-30 23:12   EA5DOM   0.475608   -22   0   IM98wn   0.02   F5WK   IN99ef   1192   355

Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ??=20 :-O

Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX = ! 

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez=20 [luis@vigilant.es]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015=20 21:03
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Let's=20 go step by step=20

3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW

Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV = reports

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham=20 [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de = 2015=20 19:14
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

..  May be   10 dB at  least !
 
G,

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Hi Graham, MF
 
Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is=20 really outstanding  :-O
I can clearly see the signal on my monitor = waterfall at=20 7Km when injecting -33dBm
 
Just at = sunset between=20 EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from DH5RAE and=20 DJ0ABR
 
2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475608   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   DJ0ABR   JN68nt   1556   39   2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475614   -22   0   IM98wn   0.05   EA5CV   IM98ol   59   261   2015-11-30 16:00   EA5DOM   0.475607   -31   0   IM98wn   0.05   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39 
 
I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. = Will do it=20 when I get home in a couple of hours
and will change the WSPR tx power indicator and = Opera info=20 to notice the change
 
73 de=20 Luis
EA5DOM
De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de=20 Graham
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015=20 18:13
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Luis
 
That's just 'a silly ,   -18 dB   with  = G8HUH=20 ,  I thought  you  where  running  QRP, = that's =20 close to  20 dB  QRO  jiji
 
73-G,
 
 
From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MGFrequency: = 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB
 
All OP8  decodes from  psk-map
 
EA5DOM SO5AS 600m OPERA 2210 km 18:10:11 EA5DOM SV8CS-5 600m OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 SV8CS EA5DOM 600m OPERA 1819 km 19:20:11 EA5DOM EI8JK 600m OPERA 1633 km 18:46:12 EA5DOM G8HUH 600m OPERA 1430 km 18:22:12 EA5DOM G3XKR 600m OPERA 1420 km 23:10:11
 
 
 

From: VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Thank you Tony
 
That explains the radical propagation change !=20 :-)
 
Thank you for keeping your monitor = working
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony=20 Baldwin
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015=20 9:34
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF: EA5DOM=20 back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 = utc.
I=20 will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try = different power=20 levels again.
73, Tony,=20 EI8JK
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