Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj04.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.88]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-86204cbef2ddf4; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:47:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 552F2380000A1; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P8Yyz-0001wV-Vn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:45:33 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P8Yyz-0001wL-Ge for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:45:33 +0100 Received: from smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.247]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P8Yyx-0004FE-Ny for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:45:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 10733 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2010 13:45:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=BhHcRv99gIQasZDTAZQySiKIv6snRKlwG7B6MsezvNfhNDALezG7DFamtZMxstjvXuDOk30iTpPbN+fqJRijBa0E/qp1AxldOhun61bu/u4eMLa8/W7khZcJST/1fCj0/B9eEJr5HzUqRQWnrDMFOx5CkimUKNhidR+kVhMs8vU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1287582325; bh=azaggbthng4kliambKeMf0FBb8UPAST0JyvEhu/pK6k=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=acmGXoLWgtwoUW4x37H+8o+AXuzfzGYo39RNN7WbPD3qH8+PKm1KVFAYrT7wPhyopnqAdsHFcmuA4mOTWT+tJ/g5uskmiynBoja/ZFVGlxug4BGOOmwTP83ra/sxe+TTG1Mf1WFQjtwSAHiIZcVnWFK00g801PFtxq9mttUaEyE= Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@86.169.134.120 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2010 13:45:25 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- X-YMail-OSG: uIq3ab8VM1m0PXU9rSHl4GAoA3sJORawIkw5tu3YuWFZ21f 3Q2Cy7wWupXJKk7BKNAxtPpAxzk_TXbRvluaCIMAS8yPThlWgJ.lOHaYhC1o H0APAwq57nPc2QF2Ilf061B3oDLYC9NHg3bL9KXkYhP4rZIZ7Get3O0XqU8d lDGo.u5mbPk4KvRy0m654wDft5wUJ_CXsbETTE4e0bVhwLt77F2YrVP3ayyq pqmSd3tjl7GGb59kP.9uXGthFW2VoolvGncVjPJJ3QFmgIQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0C7E582F2C424A66A136CD25244BE1BF@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <367FDD82671449AEAB28C67EA989FE59@IBM7FFA209F07C> <001201cb7038$ddc18d80$4001a8c0@lark> <7383C2F394D24A61A4D04AD2516EC590@IBM7FFA209F07C> <001701cb7058$e2c315e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:45:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: Variometer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a84cbef2d93767 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mal, Yes, so I now understand, but it wasn't a 'full blown' repeater, as you say, more a remote RX like a grabber. Thing is, nobody had to use it if they didn't want to. Still can't see how it would attract 'pirates'. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal hamilton" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Variometer > Chris > The repeater episode is correct. > In the South a repeater was installed 137Kcs/146 Mcs so in effect some of > those active on 137 in the South were actually receiving on 146 Mcs and > not > directly on 137 Kcs. Others in the South still around could give you more > detailed information. > I suppose it over came receiving difficulties for some and no different > today from Grabbers and other remote RX sites. > It could lead to cheating watching a signal on a remote that you cannot > hear/see at the home qth and having a QSO. > 73 De Mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:11 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Variometer > > >> Hi Alan, >> Yes, you're probably correct, but without knowing that 'detail' you coud >> easily misunderstand what it is suggested that unit could do. >> Incidentally, it was GW4ALG, not 3. Steve says one of the reasons he gave > up >> on 136 was the 'first RSGB repeater on the band' and it attracting >> 'pirates'. I have never heard of an RSGB repeater on 136 and think it a > most >> unlikely band to interest pirates. Maybe I'm wrong, I often am! >> Vy 73, >> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan Melia" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:03 AM >> Subject: LF: Re: Variometer >> >> >> > Hi Chris that unit looks rather like the pictures of Steve GW3ALGs >> > variometer (others made similar units....the lego remote control rings >> > bells) which has featured in the LF Handbook and both editions of LF >> > Today. >> > If so Steve used a modifieed KW1000 linear I believe which was capable > of >> > putting out quite a lot of power. Steve ran a 20m vertical with the top >> > 10m >> > supported by party ballooons when the wind was suitably low. If it was > put >> > below his main fixed loading coil as an incremental inductor then it > would >> > not have had to suffer such high voltages as at the main coil top. >> > >> > Alan G3NYK >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Chris" >> > To: "RSGB LF Group" >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:31 AM >> > Subject: LF: Variometer >> > >> > >> > Hi LF, >> > Need a variometer? Take a look at Ebay item 120636022163. The claim is >> > this >> > item can cope with 'over a kW of RF' and covers 136kHz - I must say I > have >> > my doubts! At least you can have a laugh at the 'amature' spelling and >> > terminology throughout!! >> > Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. >> > >> > >> >> > >