Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s8RHksEe014494 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:46:57 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1XXvyb-0003Iy-2w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:40:09 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1XXvya-0003Ip-Kz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:40:08 +0100 Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.75]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XXvyY-0007o9-7s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:40:07 +0100 Received: from mtaout-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.146]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 19FAA700000A0 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from White (unknown [95.91.239.181]) by mtaout-aam02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 8435D38000081 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0C2D6E27CD1B4495883A0B583268D6B3@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <5422A13B.3219.30D807@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com><5425E55B.3050304@gmail.com><54264D1C.3000809@free.fr> <558A69F224CB4AA69C64952CA5752C49@Clemens0811> <5426DBBA.1060709@free.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:40:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20140625; t=1411839603; bh=hpi2MU8h2Sstb2QF9s53RMI9GPpg3SnnYGYHzTY4jtE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vze335jNIOwYA3qHi3UnjqrSfoZ5pEgEmiUdGvwHvKPgQMvAYsrDewr3xdkWFI+2k 2UtSyaX53FeY8glB5R3ThzyJ042Ca1kK1IZgqHUZ+ikd/zOemmd+0R5p8iIt5jVc2W S33CZ21U0AdKhngnTEwqNbdQuGXuAQXy9QWhCGZY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b13925426f6724dd8 X-AOL-IP: 95.91.239.181 X-Scan-Signature: 913d7a7c91a460d176c89ad756da16f9 Subject: Re: LF: T/A on 472kHz WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CFDA8A.DBAB4390" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 511 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CFDA8A.DBAB4390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable < joke > When the public radio of Armenia was still active on mediumwave, they = received a letter from a person claiming to have heard their station in = some very far away place. The letter contained a question to Radio = Yerevan: "What is your radiated power?" Answer: "We know our traansmitter power (P kilowatts), and measured our = antenna resistance (R ohms) and our antenna's effective height (H = meters). Using standard antenna engineering formulas based on Maxwell's = equations, we calculated an ERP of X kilowatts. However we live under a = socialist law that radio stations can never have more than one watt ERP. = So we have to conclude that Maxwell's equations are in error, and our = ERP is exactly 1 Watt, as prescribed by law." < /joke > Markus (DF6NM) From: F5MAF_FREE=20 Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 5:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: T/A on 472kHz WSPR OK Clemens it seem most easy to have 10W ERP on 475 KHz comparatively on = 137 KHz hi! 73 Marc F5MAF Le 27/09/2014 11:24, Clemens Paul a =E9crit : > By comparison to other signals > on different remote perseus receivers all over europe incl. iceland > my educated guess is 10W ERP... > > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F5MAF_FREE >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:38 AM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: T/A on 472kHz WSPR >> >> Hello Stephan, I received you +7dB!, in JN03PQ. What is your >> real power >> radiated? >> Here, I use an antenna K9AY (2 x loop) with 35dB amplifier and >> filter on >> FRG8800. >> >> 73, >> Marc >> F5MAF >> >> Le 27/09/2014 00:14, DK7FC a =E9crit : >>> More and more stations there. Got report by 94 stns within 2 >> weeks now! >>> Compared to other bands, MF takes a good place, see a >> capture from the >>> WSPR stats page. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >>> >>> Am 24.09.2014 11:47, schrieb Mike Dennison: >>>> Last night, WG2XJM was received by several European stations at US >>>> sunset and Eu sunrise. >>>> >>>> This included G8HUH, M0LMH and G3XDV. His best DX was PA3ABK/2 >>>> (6184km) at 0112 and 0504UTC. >>>> >>>> G8HUH was reported by WD2XSH/17 between 0534 and 0554UTC, >>>> >>>> Mike, G3XDV >>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >> > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CFDA8A.DBAB4390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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When the public radio of Armenia = was still=20 active on mediumwave, they received a letter from a person claiming = to have=20 heard their station in some very far away place. The letter contained a=20 question to Radio Yerevan: "What is = your radiated=20 power?"
 
Answer: "We know our traansmitter power = (P=20 kilowatts), and measured our antenna resistance (R ohms) and our = antenna's=20 effective height (H meters). Using standard antenna engineering formulas = based=20 on Maxwell's equations, we calculated an ERP of X kilowatts.=20 However we live under = a socialist law that=20 radio stations can never have more than one watt ERP. So we have to = conclude=20 that Maxwell's equations are in error, and our ERP is exactly 1 Watt, as = prescribed by law."
 
< /joke >
 
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 

From: F5MAF_FREE
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 5:46 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: T/A on 472kHz WSPR

OK Clemens it seem most easy to have 10W ERP on 475 KHz=20 comparatively on
137 KHz hi!
73
Marc F5MAF

Le = 27/09/2014 11:24,=20 Clemens Paul a =E9crit :
> By comparison to other signals
> = on=20 different remote perseus receivers all over europe incl. iceland
> = my=20 educated guess is 10W ERP...
>
>
> 73
> = Clemens
>=20 DL4RAJ
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
>>=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = F5MAF_FREE
>>=20 Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:38 AM
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
>>=20 Subject: Re: LF: T/A on 472kHz WSPR
>>
>> Hello = Stephan, I=20 received you +7dB!, in JN03PQ. What is your
>> real = power
>>=20 radiated?
>> Here, I use an antenna K9AY (2 x loop) with 35dB = amplifier=20 and
>> filter on
>> FRG8800.
>>
>>=20 73,
>> Marc
>> F5MAF
>>
>> Le = 27/09/2014=20 00:14, DK7FC a =E9crit :
>>> More and more stations there. = Got report=20 by 94 stns within 2
>> weeks now!
>>> Compared to = other=20 bands, MF takes a good place, see a
>> capture from = the
>>>=20 WSPR stats page.
>>>
>>> 73,=20 Stefan
>>>
>>> Am 24.09.2014 11:47, schrieb Mike = Dennison:
>>>> Last night, WG2XJM was received by several = European stations at US
>>>> sunset and Eu=20 sunrise.
>>>>
>>>> This included G8HUH, = M0LMH and=20 G3XDV. His best DX was PA3ABK/2
>>>> (6184km) at 0112 and = 0504UTC.
>>>>
>>>> G8HUH was reported by = WD2XSH/17=20 between 0534 and 0554UTC,
>>>>
>>>> Mike,=20 G3XDV
>>>>=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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