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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mike, Yes, the fading is very interesting; this is the third night in a week in which fading differences between signals from Dex and Bob, of perhaps as much as 10 or 15dB, have been observable, and not coincident with day/night terminator at either end of either path. These are good conditions for observing such fading differences (between roughly similar paths) from spectrogram plots, with SNR at max signal strength still roughly discernible from Pd and Pfa in the plots (which by mid-winter, with strong overnight signals, may not be the case). Do you have any thoughts on mechanisms behind such fading differences between signals from Bob and Dex? The fading differences have persisted for good portions of an hour or more, and in some cases have had relatively abrupt (small fractions of an hour) onset (such as on October 21). Because of the unusual nature of the fading differences on October 21, I had wondered whether to ascribe them to something unrelated to ionospheric propagation (although I struggled to imagine what the alternative might be), until the two more-recent examples appeared this week including the those in your plots from last night. Do you have any thoughts on mechanisms? Or possible correlations with any indices? 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These are good conditions for observing such fading differences (between roughly similar paths) from spectrogram plots, with SNR at max signal strength still roughly discernible from Pd and Pfa in the plots (which by mid-winter, with strong overnight signals, may not be the case). Do you have any thoughts on mechanisms behind such fading differences between signals from Bob and Dex? The fading differences have persisted for good portions of an hour or more, and in some cases have had relatively abrupt (small fractions of an hour) onset (such as on October 21). Because of the unusual nature of the fading differences on October 21, I had wondered whether to ascribe them to something unrelated to ionospheric propagation (although I struggled to imagine what the alternative might be), until the two more-recent examples appeared this week including the those in your plots from last night. Do you have any thoughts on mechanisms? Or possible correlations with any indices? Great work by all RX and TX stations; great signals and interesting results. 73, Jim AA5BW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:14 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 74.5495 QRSS (1of2) Another good night, and a 100% complete callsign from Dex starting at 0550UTC. There was more fading than usual and it was interesting to see how the two signals faded differently. Captures as usual in this and the next email. Mike, G3XDV > WG2XRS/4 WNY [XRS4] with company, XRS/5, Dex NC-all captures most > appreciated-Bob