Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: dcc1: mailn 1182; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v4OH2dlv005411 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 19:02:40 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dDZcG-0004yV-01 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:58:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dDZcF-0004yM-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:58:31 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dDZcA-0002ek-ME for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:58:30 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.208.157.58]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lxgnf-1e2JRb2VAZ-017IJn for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 18:58:24 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <1456380282.20170524154713@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1456380282.20170524154713@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <099A424C9760447D9BCA0472F83FCA7C@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdLUnOPc4JtBlGwpQD2HvaKDd0QJWgAEK2hg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4mxvAMAVfEdZ9ShuAZQXJPbVwk/gdZm18oW1ReszOEQPPVXwO5h I7+5ncWFnt2celVMgVgbG0+U+3wDmpWrR9V5zHZVS6AXCn3WYqw6mjB+Rw+6JERtfxT7zY7 4MlZeEIkcHnN5OA2Jl1jxSXSIxiw/1TsQLUkm9iYuc8FKkydjYxtPmb+s57BU6Y20TPzx6g ym8dBTyhVDyDq2UBlGVrQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+FCcGL5rsfU=:RbWRtc5jCADj/dgHTqC4dd MI5hQTg5oW+KU/dttTqd5+UY1WifiIYs5Iumw5gWGUQzull4GfAzNvZZM9Uc99VZ9lj4Ip9vH tybL4iv+vdJrZXA2arK6sx1wDukBpFDtOe7BkWONYTmTMe38IAzVUWCGJlSFGTT0osUQruV3z nBhzAd+sqZGyqI2/qGxQ/9y3kg+34W0iBvscRHFYaAUiroLrg/HAZqP+cURmycuTZmjHHqKYD M1mkO5h9D3KLx9IyE7L6Z+iwLAM84Ng7WQhe7P9xV7d0hHvfBth0bfa7smVp1EKwoDCCeOy/j EfpzZ2MKZlxL59IU7vu/leo8ImmyIqKZ8aQfStXPcHfn3ok7bVpv1f6HCJJEpIdOJ+nGckcyI gfT+pKrg2F3GjJ/96vEHNJc2c+fwmw947PU5k4/JMlunv1bWvXnic1Y3SebmOMg5j5aW4Ck3n D4JCnCnhC2LgM62+Sxuo1gblOt7cCS6PZWJ0tWWE8m1LkL43t87csqt+G0gcJXMVicIc9QoXL 7Yr+aosO0N0MiVE0tcRy4w+CGqzSwzFhdyWKMaNMYmrvjIZdXuDC0TZo27zjY/Yukq6mTqIFl nCNmgf2RuvwBfFQzmSHlrtKcNOsg6Rr5KnFzmlbPISc3domwwxq7edXrLro3oqQ9CX96iY+Cr RfAV/eK8/OPe2S9GHCKOIYYyCPfV1AvH+qEIeS3qr4fHYhTIVDMgPdRz+UfCleqE3SVF48AvC DRf0uJv6pwkqy9IbtXwDxVQdWTrcjMRxAIRBWDbTAVIhIq8AOowvHReftkH89Rm3PP2PTunEE Bb6UmIj X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: LF: RE: Iron dust toroids and heating Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v4OH2dlv005411 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11753 Hi Chris, It no longer >functions as an LPF, and I suspect the T225A-2 toroid is compromised >in its crystalline structure, through the very high temperatures, now. Can you measure the input VSWR and Z with the filter terminated by a 50 Ohm load? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:47 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Iron dust toroids and heating > >Hello LF'ers, > >24 May 2017 > > >If I run the combiner on my 2 amps the LPF centre toroid heats up. I >made a silly mistake with setting my U3S driver the other night and >instead of TX'ing every 30 minutes it went on an every two minute >rampage before it soon self halted. The centre toroid winding has lost >most of its enamel coating and the Kaptan tape is crispy. It no longer >functions as an LPF, and I suspect the T225A-2 toroid is compromised >in its crystalline structure, through the very high temperatures, now. >115uH seems to be the calculated figure, if not actually measured (73 >turns 14 AWG enamelled wire) of the centre inductor. An air core coil >of similar inductance isn't THAT big, (at least not the size of a >"small car" as someone on a US forum estimated :)) Is an air cored LPF >viable, or do i need to look at different core sizes or materials? >Thanks. LPF is at: > > >http://www.w1vd.com/LPF.html > >Thanks. > > > >-- >Best regards, > Chris mailto:dead_fets@gmail.com > > > >--- >Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >http://www.avg.com >