Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u937ewYU018798 for <sq5bpf@lipkowski.org>; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:40:58 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bqxoF-0008Dz-7a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:37:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bqxoE-0008Dq-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:37:10 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <cpaul@gmx.net>) id 1bqxoB-0003y2-Qq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:37:09 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.237.153.202]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLeoF-1bqggu2q9L-000x0E for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 09:37:05 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <57E4F96E.3000205@posteo.de> <157872368d6-7699-61a0@webprd-a20.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <157872368d6-7699-61a0@webprd-a20.mail.aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:36:56 +0200 Message-ID: <098D7C7D6BAE4DDB98CE9840FBA8CFB6@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdIc7dvxWG2v8b6hSJSEdsS+eQdr5wAWJ67Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:BCf4zb4zmWXA1ny7zlr5JqYrMXCi/hpqHZSU2GPPsbdTtQZZ92W R/NzpHbTqP5gYgxgc3Ej/K9JVfDudSfLgI7D+Xlm3t3/PXyPXMTUtL7pgmT8glSQKXe2D+A ciDo6nTAlcCev1kbS57woNAKihNCbTah3xxkR2CnBL8DRsfVEy/aI4AsX2HoxF21/Q/pMnV lmUDeV0KhDOA5gcOip+Jw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TBWHx9Tad+E=:wc1n1f12U5tBK8OkHqwo99 YqJGqKqSKdOs+ozr3XnUvgNg/GQEsFXCNtvOsAe/fMn1roV5Us3p9PsFgEDoX8gYm6lmWO5ri BbqUddSO5F75HbDdYkmIgnMBhBnQp9XKi6e7XxY++ULYG90JF6CBdqDc2Zy5c55PoJWfMShcq KI/Ag/Eqc2sMwZwNFCOj3g8uEk+G5ZvL9CBhuJA8WctfcrC4dd8kYjiAx3hc4c8T1uHHBSVv+ MUd4Fr88mdBqqEAVQHr1fr/iWXJpLREji8wcHzYtBD7qC0NR+S1Qhe1JjRrwdLt0RiEOaV3As Mt4Wo21C5Y8RBKZHZVU6KLuFSPn094ovybtFVLZP8OIy6rd2xGhYbWk7YKXOQNTQx8R9WILtY H2qe6x6tvTmGofbyeXAQzj00lmkcLbG5aiQ/L7+1MmHalJ0hqd68Fxps6gmkOTsZ0S3IJUlfd 1GLceK/l62Xt819bvrvPFL5m12bBlsWsR0xDVr/qiJZRydHPagP09w0SQcPwEBOYcp67WftEx Js0ANexDpdHJGr12luUIV2P90u5p8oihRwkR72c+jC6aBb+fctKFEwwtvlX07igIpo2Xlsds+ AE/HDzafV6D04P7r6lVUf7Dg2ezHT3fC9F7duNX4+t5vUN0pms6RgNRB0ViRQ20r71W7MHgTn 42sgDIKFvpswUMwK7sdl6TZv1hJoKaA8Q9Uyu75OA1GkxSOmveQEQZZ3kYzltBuJHtMoJ62y8 1fuFEajYtDKlWH/KlULEupZ0y7i1C0EUL1gAk1nD+7M7meB+2qCyUPZrc/HBdZXH2FVcL5cZ7 E8spUWA X-Scan-Signature: 739d4fb39bd02fc5a2de5437a39bb056 Subject: RE: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8927 Hi Markus, >This is truly amazing, WSJT-X v1.7.0 can decode two stations >on the same QRG: There seems to be a certain limit somewhere above 13dB for this amazing capability (or miracle if one prefers) regarding the difference in signal strength between two stations on the same frequency. At my qth DK6NI was around -16 to -17dB SNR shortly before 20:34 and DH5RAE came in with +17dB SNR at 20:34. Only DH5RAE was decoded. LA8AV and PA0MLC had a difference of 7dB in SNR and where decoded here on the same frequency as well. It would be interesting to run a test under defined conditions to find out where the limit is. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Markus Vester >Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:44 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel > >This is truly amazing, WSJT-X v1.7.0 can decode two stations >on the same QRG: 2016-10-02 20:34 DH5RAE 0.475756 +2 0 JN68qv 0.5 DF6NM JN59nj 173 290 2016-10-02 20:34 DK6NI 0.475756 +15 0 JN59ln 0.1 DF6NM JN59nj 22 147 2016-10-02 20:30 LA8AV 0.475701 -8 0 JO59cs 0.5 DF6NM JN59nj 1155 177 2016-10-02 20:30 PA0MLC 0.475701 -18 0 JO31aw 0.5 DF6NM JN59nj 456 126