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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Henny, Another nice capture! (22-10-2013, attached). Is your time stamp of 5:21:54 in UTC, or local time? Is 5:21:54 on the right edge of the image? To answer the above question, I tried to use your capture from 17-10-2013 (also attached) as a reference (it has a time stamp of 07:36:59), because Bob tended to switch off around 0600 UTC, but Bob's switch-off seemed to line up with 0700 on your image, which I believe is not your local time at 0600 UTC. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [76.96.62.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hvanesce[at]comcast.net) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: c96efc14f58f84aa05b44c520f48db32 Subject: LF: RE: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 74.549.6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0654_01CECF1E.638C9850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 750 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0654_01CECF1E.638C9850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henny, Another nice capture! (22-10-2013, attached). Is your time stamp of 5:21:54 in UTC, or local time? Is 5:21:54 on the right edge of the image? To answer the above question, I tried to use your capture from 17-10-2013 (also attached) as a reference (it has a time stamp of 07:36:59), because Bob tended to switch off around 0600 UTC, but Bob's switch-off seemed to line up with 0700 on your image, which I believe is not your local time at 0600 UTC. I tried to line up characters between your grabber, and Mike's and Hartmut's grabbers, but my guesses gave offsets of tens of minutes in the characters. Does the time stamp (5:21:54, 07:36:59) line up with a part of the screen slightly to the left of the right edge, perhaps? The reason that I'm asking is that on Sunday night, the differences between WG2XRS/4 and WG2XRS/5 signals on your grabber and Mike's and Hartmut's grabbers showed very interesting propagation differences. I thought that the group might be interested in seeing this graphically. Yesterday I prepared a Mathcad plot for the group, showing estimated signal strength (normalized) over time, for XRS/4 and XRS/5 signals on your grabber and Mike's and Hartmut's grabbers, and I am ready to distribute the plot, but I would like to line up the plots on the time scale before I distribute to you and Bob, Mike, Hartmut, Joe and the group. There is something particularly interesting about propagation on Sunday that is easiest to show with a plot of all the RX results for both TX signals. Thanks for all of the great grabber plots! Apologies, I removed the attachments because this message did not go through with attachments; I will send them separately (the attachments are from Henny's messages on 22-10-2013 and 17-10-2013). 73, Jim AA5BW From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of henny Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:19 AM To: blacksheep Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage (attachment): 74.549.6 Gm Bob. the capture henny cpm 73 Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden: 74.549.6 Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld. ------=_NextPart_000_0654_01CECF1E.638C9850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Henny,

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Another nice capture! (22-10-2013, attached). Is your time stamp of = 5:21:54 in UTC, or local time? Is 5:21:54 on the right edge of the = image?

 

To answer the above question, I tried to use your capture from = 17-10-2013 (also attached) as a reference (it has a time stamp of = 07:36:59), because Bob tended to switch off around 0600 UTC, but = Bob’s switch-off seemed to line up with 0700 on your image, which = I believe is not your local time at 0600 UTC.

 

I tried to line up characters between your grabber, and Mike’s = and Hartmut’s grabbers, but my guesses gave offsets of tens of = minutes in the characters. Does the time stamp (5:21:54, 07:36:59) line = up with a part of the screen slightly to the left of the right edge, = perhaps?

 

The reason that I’m asking is that on Sunday night, the = differences between WG2XRS/4 and WG2XRS/5 signals on your grabber and = Mike’s and Hartmut’s grabbers showed very interesting = propagation differences. I thought that the group might be interested in = seeing this graphically. Yesterday I prepared a Mathcad plot for the = group, showing estimated signal strength (normalized) over time, for = XRS/4 and XRS/5 signals on your grabber and Mike’s and = Hartmut’s grabbers, and I am ready to distribute the plot, but I = would like to line up the plots on the time scale before I distribute to = you and Bob, Mike, Hartmut, Joe and the group. There is something = particularly interesting about propagation on Sunday that is easiest to = show with a plot of all the RX results for both TX = signals.

 

Thanks for all of the great grabber plots!

 

Apologies, I removed the attachments because this message did not go = through with attachments; I will send them separately (the attachments = are from Henny’s messages on 22-10-2013 and = 17-10-2013).

 

73,

 

Jim AA5BW

 

 

 

From:= = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = henny
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:19 = AM
To: blacksheep
Subject: LF: E-mail met bijlage = (attachment): 74.549.6

 

Gm = Bob.

the = capture

henny = cpm

73

Het bericht kan nu met het = volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden = verzonden:
74.549.6

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan = ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde = bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor = uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden = afgehandeld.

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