Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v587FIVm011737 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:15:20 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dIrWi-0005kE-12 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 08:06:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dIrWg-0005k5-Uu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 08:06:38 +0100 Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:39]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dIrWQ-0007Qs-0u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 08:06:37 +0100 Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id IrW9dnt7rU9z5IrWLdx2er; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 07:06:17 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=comcast.net Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1496905577; bh=b2sL3giq7f4Nww4mxECX0kYlDGvhS3uMxuZ5t8nDo90=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=H+ozZwLUUZ27/mleveSDm4Jjj5h105OQckzkeE8U3LU0w5rUrle+NvNyXFoi4LnxL Wq5tZHMv60bmgO1C1dgRF9pT0kn0rZXHTYA1KHpOsDPEEHTGSPnlft7DF1ZpfodvYh mOB9j2iPV1WvFsTkjTAANgE2OAFJ0mwKhYblFE5QNOpM13Nw4+iXLX0gG9J5bUbmQL 6pqmLkwYM6dgZ9K08/YEKhY5qMGVm7gj+liDE3pXCccHPDbfXqjj+tO6AHikuE+3Ck MfOv+Z7KPDSopNeCgMsLll1F1P9fn8Lp5uldAy5NXDHFR9XirVMplHRrqoaXULBVn0 wQHzaHqt5c3zw== Received: from Owner ([IPv6:2601:140:8500:7f9f:a932:2ef9:1bd2:4036]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id IrWJdqelbtZO6IrWKdPnOS; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 07:06:16 +0000 From: To: References: <93ae1c86-9b2e-8313-069f-8b0d941b49c8@abelian.org> <15b0c931d98-7d4f-1e43e@webprd-a90.mail.aol.com> <00d601d2a67b$6e472430$4ad56c90$@comcast.net> <4300a482-e7b9-17c3-5ece-7bfa12b4a352@abelian.org> <696b4e5b-2b63-e5e5-c91c-3b2f78ee9f82@abelian.org> <04ad01d2df2a$7d452670$77cf7350$@comcast.net> <5937A202.2040909@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5937A202.2040909@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 03:06:10 -0400 Message-ID: <058101d2e025$b5eaa030$21bfe090$@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGEk4+ydSDvSCCmGQr1u7Smz8OzTwIA8C14AjH/GEsBmZSsEgGe/AlsAdBQwBECIfkBuqJcKhYQ Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFFggINXJBi7XipKivndiBdDSH9wEC2/SWjNuFHCi41OYWuV6Rc1ntbvkgg7UesXSc6b+sOXTZltUbhkeM43LN214AEIkVsIwxPU5xW/YXlGcJLn+Pri 7sY0P+MHl79v1F+YzYBPIhXqTkB8dIUFuX4= X-Scan-Signature: 4b5b5ebe37a4c4f430f59bc35c1947b0 Subject: RE: LF: DK7FC in Todmorden at 2970 Hz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v587FIVm011737 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11926 Stefan, Yes, working on a 1E-1 to 1E1 Hz plot now. Very interested in what FDTD thinks 1E-1 to 1E0 kHz looks like. Guessing 1E-1 to 1E0 Hz will be smooth but even in that case it's hard to guess at what lower frequency the 10dB difference between FDTD and NAVELEX at 1E0 Hz will diminish to 3dB or less. 73, Jim AA5BW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DK7FC Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 2:50 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC in Todmorden at 2970 Hz Hello Jim, Can you extend that plot to 1E-1...1E1 kHz? 73, Stefan Am 07.06.2017 03:07, schrieb hvanesce@comcast.net: > Paul, > > Thanks for your reply below. In available time I'm trying to verify that FDTD can be helpful for the ULF tests (and vice versa, that the ULF experimental results can validate FDTD for ULF). So far I've found three positive indicators based on Stefan's tests at 2.97 kHz. One indicator is correlation of (a) extrapolated signal strength Cumiana/Todmorden, adjusted for antenna current (and including error margin for estimated sensitivity at Cumiana), with (b) the FDTD characteristics in the attached. For that purpose (particularly for comparing signal strengths extrapolated from SNR at known integration time and estimated receiver sensitivity), should I consider the effective integration time of your 9-day stack of 11-hour segments to be 356400 seconds i.e. bandwidth 2.8 uHz? > > Thanks, > > Jim AA5BW >