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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Wow, that's excellent! I wouldn't have thought this is possible. Congratulations to both Andy and Dimitris! Best 73, Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: André Guyé To: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:08 PM Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.100.31 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.6 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 826f0ea42f5cf3c84a6f3a877245ef10 Subject: LF: Re: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CE0D10.BB44A900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : fail X-AOL-OVERRIDE-PIK-REASON: Y x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d5120ca064b31 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CE0D10.BB44A900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, that's excellent! I wouldn't have thought this is possible. = Congratulations to both Andy and Dimitris!=20 Best 73, Markus ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andr=C3=A9 Guy=C3=A9=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:08 PM Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m >From F6CNI : Hello, I give you some info about the MF reception of Dale VK1DSH signal = here in France. For 2 weeks, the propagation between EU / VK on 160 meters is great, and = I had some CW QSO barefoot. I think that for this DX path the = propagation on MF may be similar than on 160 m ? At the date of this event, between the Dale and Andy QTH, the best = moment is a bit before the grey line sunset in France, when the sun = elevation is about 3=C2=B0. But on 160 meters that needs especially good = propagation and the opening is rare and very short, 5 to 15 minutes = only. This moment is now around 1645 TU in my QTH. A bit later, when the = sunrise at VK land in grey line, that is a second short period for = success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for south to north hemisphere = DX. For north / north path (EU to east coast or centre of States) the best = moment is simply in the middle of the night. But perhaps for longer = path, as west coast the sunrise in Europe is better ? My garden is quite large but in centre of the city, a noisy location. = Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are = IC7200, IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP. Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a golf. That is my second = hobby. Due to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a = very little player=E2=80=99s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of = the golf a simple beverage using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit = more meters long aiming to 80=C2=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I = had in my car the IC7200 on 473.5 USB and a portable computer (only 2 = hours of autonomy) with 3G. I stay on place only during 40 minutes. That = is the story. I catch one spot from Dale. What that means ? The Beverage and not power line helps a lot giving a = very low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is good, because = there is not any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great = propagation day, so I was lucky listening the good frequency at the best = moment. What about the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? = For this very long path, I think that the opening duration time is too = short for that use ? Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid = that. So, I=E2=80=99ll try again but it is necessary for me to hurry, = because the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short time. For information, I use some codes when I am receiving LF, MF or 160m: a.. F6CNI : normal, listening only WSPR2=20 b.. F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and WSPR15 (giving F6CNI/15 = reports for WSPR15)=20 c.. F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 RX antennas=20 d.. F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on the Golf location. Best 73. Sorry my poor english. F6CNI Andy. JN19QB From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m There's a thread in the VK 600m group discussing this unusual wspr spot: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/600m/message/6415 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m Andy Was this direct? 2013-02-16 16:44 VK1DSH 0.475078 -29 0 QF44ms = 50 F6CNI/BEV JN19qb 16832 310 Eddie G3ZJO ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CE0D10.BB44A900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Wow, that's excellent! I wouldn't have = thought this=20 is possible. Congratulations to both Andy and Dimitris!
 
Best 73,
Markus
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Andr=C3=A9=20 Guy=C3=A9
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on = 630m

From F6CNI :

 

Hello, I give you some info about the = MF=20 reception of Dale VK1DSH signal here in France.

 

For 2 weeks, the propagation between = EU / VK on=20 160 = meters is great, and I had = some CW QSO=20 barefoot. I think that for this DX path the propagation on MF may be = similar=20 than on 160 = m = ?

 

At the date of this event, between = the Dale and=20 Andy QTH, the best moment is a bit before the grey line sunset in = France, when the sun elevation is about = 3=C2=B0. But on=20 160 meters that needs especially good propagation and the opening is = rare and=20 very short, 5 to 15 minutes only. This moment is now around 1645 TU in = my QTH. A=20 bit later, when the sunrise at VK land in grey line, that is a second = short=20 period for success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for south to north = hemisphere DX.

 

For north / north path (EU to east = coast or=20 centre of States) the best moment is simply in the middle of the night. = But=20 perhaps for longer path, as west coast the sunrise in Europe is better ?

 

My garden is quite large but in = centre of the=20 city, a noisy location. Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are = IC7200,=20 IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP.

 

Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a golf. = That is my=20 second hobby. Due to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a very = little player=E2=80=99s=20 activity. So a week ago I hang on border of the golf a simple beverage = using a=20 very light wire. About 500 or a bit more meters long aiming to 80=C2=B0 = azimuth. For=20 the test yesterday I had in my car the IC7200 on 473.5 USB and a = portable=20 computer (only 2 hours of autonomy) with 3G. I stay on place only during = 40=20 minutes. That is the story. I catch one spot from = Dale.

 

What that means ? The Beverage and not power = line helps a=20 lot giving a very low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is good, = because=20 there is not any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great = propagation day,=20 so I was lucky listening the good frequency at the best moment. What = about the=20 use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long = path, I=20 think that the opening duration time is too short for that use=20 ?

 

Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, = one spot is=20 not sufficient to valid that. So, I=E2=80=99ll try again but it is = necessary for me=20 to hurry, because the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short=20 time.

 

For information, I use some codes when I am = receiving LF,=20 MF or 160m:

 

  • F6CNI=20 : normal, listening only WSPR2=20
  • F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and = WSPR15 (giving=20 F6CNI/15 reports for WSPR15)=20
  • F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 = RX=20 antennas=20
  • F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on = the Golf=20 location.

 

Best 73. Sorry my poor = english.

 

F6CNI Andy. JN19QB

 

 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on = 630m
 
There's a thread in the VK 600m group = discussing=20 this unusual wspr spot:
http://groups.ya= hoo.com/group/600m/message/6415
 
Best 73, Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m

Andy

Was this=20 direct?

  2013-02-16 16:44     =20 VK1DSH      = 0.475078     =20 -29      0     =20 QF44ms       = 50     =20 F6CNI/BEV      = JN19qb     =20 16832     310

Eddie=20 G3ZJO

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