Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B23323800008F; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RLjlA-0007BH-Gv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:58:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RLjl9-0007B8-TV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:58:15 +0000 Received: from nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.234]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RLjl8-0004e7-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:58:15 +0000 Received: from [212.82.108.228] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:58:08 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:58:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:58:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 513139.8588.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13706 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2011 22:58:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nTErEUMcKbYng21sp8DrmxCxYvmRvUyg9Jxtw5pLygeAIo8K5mGtd8Jru3WNCEVSr5x1F/LDcm18nCsA/LjwbO+USrzhfuKyy+P8/jcocH5ykA38VgQoL+28oP7ivNZXKs+J6VLNS13DGVUUP7n4RTiZsVw4GqrrWhaPGqFaSTw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1320274688; bh=jn0S/WgMqdZMUuibByJNV8wbWV9yEqPxHpPcJJL0NG0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tYo4DrytnjiPfbRaDKX3xlTzgVfrP3Xoh/DKn1683I1qBP/0fAkOVUyCF7nq45XcFHRC6lQi53TEe+KDaH5UmoVy2p6lO28Ss9cBn/vJIBBfhCbNaGucoH5nbDWo85roZCvOKqis9yfj+7sr5c8rnOQzcbUclcSGWR2KzBv1Z0o= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0i5HdVoVM1mwRKLO4SnRJDl4IRU4ITbYxXQ9lmZDcLAn435 e9D9RLywSS_zAxkhlRrNUkhlaCjLUOwtHbR5syKIDnEVDOQkmayKOA39extt eWfLP9jfpJIetSJgYJzLsea9Kq1B5t_SdtGJlGWC_rgmvF_8AMnyXBIciaz0 eWzVibazy3izPNJUnZ8GUZaLjx31aFbrXeiqRlwCmgRY.2TKVLHU11t_YsWD hN50xulghQVD4g8rA5NRKQExVnZ6NBEZ7DMpcOTaUFlhy9g4ZGY1bGtkhZpA AlHp1aInQLrH.4ahFlP463w1TeZIJPinopx3aUUL8QK2MROVj3ci4XGxSgS. KPgy4gqO8ebFWp3hmd0Rq_vzBvK7tCipNGvLw140TvCUXsLPgCsM8.Er5gU_ zARztP3wPpeFrWtltlw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.185.45.135 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Nov 2011 22:58:08 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <052BA55206094BF087148BC8E0C97027@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: ,,, In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:58:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AMATEUR_PORN=1.473,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:432113472:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m278.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54eb1cb2f3319 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear LF Group, Well, I think this is a positive development - the only minor disappointment is the reduction in maximum ERP to about 3W. As for the choice of frequency, the maritime people have a plan for a sort of "super Navtex" using OFDM modulation with a bandwidth of 10kHz centred on 500kHz. It may be that this is just a pipe dream, and/or a way to justify continued primary user status at 500kHz. But if it ever does come into existence, it will certainly be using vastly higher powers than amateur stations, and the noise sidebands will extend well beyond the actual signal bandwidth due to "spectral re-growth" in the TX PA. So it will be good to have a significant difference in frequency between ourselves and the noisy things. I expect all those REAL amateurs will manage to reduce their TX frequency by 5 percent somehow ;-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU