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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: And folks whose work in recent years provided tools, methods, and inspiration. Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [76.96.30.56 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hvanesce[at]comcast.net) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 290c8768709872f914a4ca71ad6bfe49 Subject: RE: LF: Re: VLF 29501, signal? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false And folks whose work in recent years provided tools, methods, and inspiration. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nicholson Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 1:24 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: VLF 29501, signal? The transmission from Dex coincided with the second night of reception of Bob's signal. I put the two bands together in this image http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/140305b.png Dex informs me he was transmitting 2014-03-02 17:00 to 2014-03-03 12:00 so I have only picked up part of the transmission. Propagation must have taken the rest. Markus wrote: > Now I'm curious who'll achieve the first detection below 9 kHz! In USA does an experimental license have to be obtained for 8.27kHz ? Bob Raide wrote: > I have to come up with more antenna height. Maybe not. I would say, take whatever antenna you have and put some voltage on it. Recent history of VLF amateur operations is characterised by pleasant surprise at how well a small ERP can be detected at long range. Jim wrote: > Congrats Dex, Bob, Paul and Warren for individual and team > efforts and a great accomplishment! And Mike and Markus too, with the latter currently carrying the distance record I believe - I make it 6451.7km from Bob to Nuernberg. Dex to Todmorden is 6196km but with less ERP. As always, the pleasure of taking part in a team effort far exceeds that of any individual accolade. -- Paul Nicholson --