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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Bob, Mike and Joe, Am I inferring correctly that Bob's signal became visible at about 0600 UTC in Newfoundland and Hertfordshire, remained visible in Hertfordshire until about 0615 UTC, and remained visible in Newfoundland until about 0630 UTC? [...] Content analysis details: (-0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [76.96.27.227 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hvanesce[at]comcast.net) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.2 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 61577e2058c0d3bf1737d7de6ed6eb16 Subject: RE: LF: 74.5495 QRSS 60 starts at 2330 till 0500 at least... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1409 Bob, Mike and Joe, Am I inferring correctly that Bob's signal became visible at about 0600 UTC in Newfoundland and Hertfordshire, remained visible in Hertfordshire until about 0615 UTC, and remained visible in Newfoundland until about 0630 UTC? Prior to realizing that Mike and Joe are about 3.5 hours apart, I wondered if the emergence of Bob's signal was related to refractive focusing at the day/night terminator. If the clocks on Mike and Joe's spectrograms are both in UTC, the terminator idea is probably wrong. If the clocks on Mike and Joe's spectrograms are both in local time, I suppose the terminator idea could have some merit. Any thoughts or corrections on the above? Compliments to all on these confirmations and the work that went into them. Regards, Jim AA5BW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:39 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: 74.5495 QRSS 60 starts at 2330 till 0500 at least... Bob, Good to have the reception confirmed. I have been monitoring overnight for several days now and that's the first time I have seen anything useful. Let's hope conditions improve shortly. As someone who operated on the old UK 73kHz band, I know how much harder it is to get out at that frequency than 136kHz, so well done and thanks for opportunity to monitor for something really interesting. 73 de Mike, G3XDV. > Mike; > I was on until 0645 as I fell asleep in my easy chair watching the > tellie! That short burst is my freq as I see the same loran lines on > Hartmut Wolff's new Grabber. None of my signal showed up on > Hartmut's grabber from what I can tell. You being just a bit closer > and closer to the Atlantic made the difference am sure! The MF/LF > bands have been very poor ever since that Aurora "attack" last week or > so. I have a monitoring point about 3.2 miles to the NE from here [CB > operator friend with a TS 570]. He checks me every night and calls me > up to tell me if there is any change in my signal! It moves around up > to two "pounds" [db] on his meter but usually is 21-23 pounds [db over > nine]. It's good to now my field intensity is not faultering and just > bad band conditions lately-things should improve greatly am sure to > where they were just over a week ago! Hope you keep monitoring as I > will be on nightly and see that I need to be on at least pasted > 0600-Bob > From: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com > To: > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:10:35 +0100 > > Subject: Re: LF: 74.5495 QRSS 60 starts at 2330 till 0500 at least... > > > Traces seen here at around 0600UTC? The lines near the top of the > > attached picture are probably Loran. Frequency scale: 0=74.549kHz. > > Mike, G3XDV > > > WG2XRS/4 [XRS4] NY possibly with company [/3 &/5] > each one Hz > > lower-any captures appreciated-Bob... > > >