Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.90]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD032-8b7d4bffa9e5aa; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:32:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 84E8D380000DC; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OHxmH-0007Fn-Hf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 12:31:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OHxmH-0007Fe-0r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 12:31:01 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OHxmE-0002Xd-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 12:31:00 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4A9F91C01995 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 13:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38F381C01997 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 13:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.29.63]) by mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B641C1C01995 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 13:30:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100528113049746.B641C1C01995@mwinf3409.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <02B411F83EFA43B292D482CC4198F6C2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <002b01cafdcc$a7375ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1275001390.825.21.camel@pat-compaq-evo> In-Reply-To: <1275001390.825.21.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:30:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100528-0, 28/05/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Stupid Crimals Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405a4bffa9e260e1 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 For us it is a ''hobby pursuit'' For Mal and others it was there whole life I can see how the evil monkey chatter of rtty would tend to be a little haunting and beacons used to be something land locked lighthouse keepers did in there spare time G .. nothing new >> http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRluddites.htm -------------------------------------------------- From: "g4gvw" Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:03 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Stupid Crimals > > Sorry Mal > But that would also tend to suggest that it might be OK for an athlete > to take performance-enhancing chemicals in order to achieve an > "advantage" (your word) over less "advantaged" competitors in the quest > for "DX". > I'm not going to be "holier than thou" on this one but it does cause one > pause for thought in terms of the morality of what is, after all, a > hobby pursuit! > > 73 > > > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 19:44 +0100, mal hamilton wrote: >> Warren >> His problem was that he got caught. Throughout the world lots of radio >> amateurs are running powers well above those permitted, especially when >> you >> take antenna gain into consideration. >> Big antennas with big gain on the higher freqs is not a crime. >> At one stage I had stacked 14, 21, 28 and 50 mcs yagis that gave me a >> terrific advantage although my RF did not exceed the permitted power. >> eg 400 watts with a 10 dB gain yagi gave me 4 Kw radiated power. I also >> have >> a NOV issued in 1962 for 1 kw power. >> Lots of stns in the USA are generating big erp,s >> G3KEV >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Warren Ziegler" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:04 PM >> Subject: LF: OT Stupid Crimals >> >> >> > Alan Potter ZL3II was busted by the NZ telecoms agency for running >> > excessive power (3100 Watts - the NZ limit is 500W PEP). >> > >> > The funny part is that he was caught because he posted a video on >> > Youtube demonstrating his 3100W setup! >> > >> > -- >> > 73 Warren K2ORS >> > WD2XGJ >> > WD2XSH/23 >> > WE2XEB/2 >> > WE2XGR/1 >> > >> >> > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > >