Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x0PH4967030844 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:04:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gn4hd-0006sd-1J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:51:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gn4g5-0006sJ-R3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:50:01 +0000 Received: from dd7438.kasserver.com ([85.13.131.248]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gn4g1-0001W7-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:49:58 +0000 Received: from DESKTOPQK5LE95 (unknown [94.46.94.187]) by dd7438.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23B4F7DA03A5 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:49:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Greg Fismer" To: References: <1UTCTNxG9H.5T3bfQF3xD0@optiplex980-pc> <9C9C8088-AD45-4DDF-BD7E-66D13F0D835C@md.metrocast.net> <5C4B1BD5.6010404@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5C4B1BD5.6010404@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:49:55 +0100 Message-ID: <029f01d4b4ce$000de400$0029ac00$@DARC.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: de Thread-Index: AQFtcHxg6gnqLcGrANdnHyBBIbFuQQGQTwYkAcw032kBB82D+AGGnRYApl9irNA= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, Solid copy in JN48jo over a distance of 20km at approx. -20db 73 de Greg DF2IC Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [85.13.131.248 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 3b8620872b19e25fb6f4dfaf1256edc3 Subject: LF: AW: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id x0PH4967030844 Hi Stefan, Solid copy in JN48jo over a distance of 20km at approx. -20db 73 de Greg DF2IC -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von DK7FC Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Januar 2019 15:23 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop Hi MF, A few days ago i took some RF litz wire and built a loop that is now hanging on the wall inside my home, just 1m besides the bed :-) (no XYL here spoiling the fun). The loop is beaming to about 150/330 deg. After playing some days on 160m (an unusual high frequency, witch feels very strange. And the band is full of unknown callsigns!!) i did now move down to more or less low frequencies, the 630m band! About 10 nF is needed to series resonate the loop. It has about 2m x 2m of size. The antenna current is not stable because the WIMA FKP-1 capacitor becomes warm during the 2 minute WSPR sequence. But the maximum current in the loop is 14 A. That explains why the cap becomes warm. A small parallel variable capacitor tunes to resonance. It is tuned so that the upheating capacitor runs into the resonance point in the middle of the WSPR sequence, then it runs out of the resonance by upheating further. It can cool down during the following quiet periods.. 14A into a 4 square meter loop at 475.7 kHz, how much ERP is that? The PA consumes about 3.5 A at 13.8V, i.e. about 50 W. The system will run over the weekend, even during daylight. The signal generator is a Raspi which will have no internet connectivity from now on, so let's hope the time offset stays inside the accepted range for this experiment. What will the best distance be? So far the band is closed but i'm optimistic to crack the 1000 km distance with this QRP setup. 73, Stefan