Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22185 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 03:33:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2001 03:33:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24108 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 03:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2001 03:33:12 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 162Ood-0001sn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:28:19 +0000 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz ([203.109.252.5]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 162Ooc-0001si-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:28:18 +0000 Received: from p150 (p164-tnt1.chc.ihug.co.nz [203.173.227.164]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id QAA15054 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:27:20 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p164-tnt1.chc.ihug.co.nz [203.173.227.164] claimed to be p150 Message-ID: <022501c16996$4f5a1880$a4e3adcb@p150> From: "Dave Brown" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <155.3badb82.291bfd5c@aol.com> <00aa01c16876$8416c940$09dc9384@ma.ultranet.com> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ringing Voltage on Telephone , boo-boo Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:17:41 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Here in ZL the line voltage (nominally 50) is reversed behind the low freq ringing as well- lotsa PBXs use the line reversal these days and not the actual low freq ringing signal- makes for faster call answering. So in total one has a total transverse voltage of 50 plus peak ringing to contend with- in our case nominally 80 vac ringing gives a total of just over 160 volts. Since the A leg is basically at or near dc ground potential thats as bad as it gets-within a few volts- using locally ground referenced test gear. 73 Dave Brown, ZL3FJ Christchurch New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: John Andrews To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ringing Voltage on Telephone , boo-boo > Larry, > > I'm with John Davis on this one. The U.S. practice is 20 Hz for ringing -- > nothing at 1 kHz. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > Larry, I have done. My statement was based on having checked it > personally > > on a number of Bell and non-Bell exchanges over the years. As I said, it > may > > be different in Canada, but here it's 20Hz. > > > >