Return-Path: Received: from rly-de11.mx.aol.com (rly-de11.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.147]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-5144ab291cc1c1; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:45:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE115-5144ab291cc1c1; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:45:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MoMu6-0001iN-FQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MoMu5-0001iE-Pe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:29 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoMts-0006dB-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:22 +0100 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090917194409.CNKD5579.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:09 +0100 Received: from [82.3.251.171] (helo=jimdesk) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoMtk-0001my-DV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:09 +0100 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <01e901ca37ca$72ccdb30$0217aac0@jimdesk> <4AB28EC5.6020509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:44:04 +0100 Message-ID: <01f501ca37cf$372fd500$0217aac0@jimdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Aco3za/BE+L7lu7hR1SLw2q1MFFDgAAAVBLw In-Reply-To: <4AB28EC5.6020509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=T1mT5sQu5rEA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=e4n5TRumAAAA:8 a=9h1oTapCOFi4V8hbF4UA:9 a=Hs0N10hGrKPFjebqKwgA:7 a=b9z8Ev1o0YzAXtNhzVUCawJxIPQA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=wGrzQcKunKESM6Ee:21 a=2jDeK0owgCXTiisH:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: G7NKS back on WSPR with new Umbrella ant Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 We'll soon see if it works ok/better I need to work on the transformer a bit and have had some more pointers from Jim M so that's a project for tomorrow See you on WSPR With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John P-G Sent: 17 September 2009 20:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G7NKS back on WSPR with new Umbrella ant James Cowburn wrote: > Dear LF > > > > G7NKS is back on tonight with a new umbrella antenna under test. > > > > 10m vertical element with 4x8m capacity wires sloping down at 45degrees. > Not ideal but a little better than the old "L". James, This is much the same antenna as I've used on 500kHz. I started with 12m height, but Shetland weather saw to that.... I then used 8m, with sloping capacity wires of approx 6m, acting as guys (insulators at the lower ends ends and nylon rope for the last section to the guying points.) I tuned it with a variety of fixed and tapped inductors and matched to 50 ohms with a tapped ferrite transformer, all in a plastic bin at the feed point. A run of 50 ohm feeder back to the shack. I've had reports and QSOs (in-band and cross-band) from at least the follwing: G/GW/GM/GI/EI/LA/SM/DL/OH/F/PA/ON and probably others. I've had QSOs with powers as low as 100mW TX power and up to 200W TX power. My estimate of the ERP for 100W TX power is 4-500mW on a good day (very dependant on ground losses which affect the antenna current and hence the radiated power). Hope you have success with it. John GM4SLV -- http://gm4slv.blogspot.com Clousta, Shetland IP90gg