Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.131]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-860e4c7c69743bb; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:31:16 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 04D9B3800008C; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqGbr-00020s-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:30:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqGbq-00020j-G1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:30:02 +0100 Received: from if10-mail-sr03-mia.mta.terra.com ([208.84.243.110]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqGbo-0005tp-Vk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:30:02 +0100 Received: from ingalta.terra.com (ingalta.tpn.terra.com [10.235.200.13]) by mail-sr03-mia.tpn.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDC6500012A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 02:29:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Terra-Karma: 0% X-Terra-Hash: bf3b286c3cdb4da055c0b5d59a8c66d5 Received-SPF: pass (ingalta.terra.com: domain of infovia.com.ar designates 208.84.242.62 as permitted sender) client-ip=208.84.242.62; envelope-from=alex2003@infovia.com.ar; helo=qqqqqPC; Received: from qqqqqPC (unknown [190.179.79.219]) (authenticated user alex2003@infovia.com.ar) by ingalta.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4E0C9E00011E for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 02:29:53 +0000 (UTC) From: "Alejandro D Alvarez LU8YD" To: References: <008701cb4882$da757430$4001a8c0@lark> <4C7C32FA.3050500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <016801cb48ab$44b5e550$ce21aff0$@com.ar> <4C7C5B33.2070800@telus.net>,<018901cb48af$21dd2990$65977cb0$@com.ar> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:29:51 -0300 Message-ID: <01b601cb48b4$64762a90$2d627fb0$@com.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActIsE8tcq46tVgGTweCl7UWQKtd9gABAQMg Content-language: es X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: RE: LF: Argo now QRSS90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B7_01CB489B.3F28F290" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40834c7c69721b42 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_01B7_01CB489B.3F28F290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, you can not do anything against nature, only patience! SAludos. =20 =20 De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Laurence KL7U= K Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 22:57 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: RE: LF: Argo now QRSS90 =20 Maybe better, maybe not :-) -- Ive very noisy here this evening with= poorer weather moving in over the next couple of days - cold front moving Sou= th into the mid states will produce quite a few thunderstorms so not so= good for DX - we shall see..Saludos... =20 =20 > From: alex2003@infovia.com.ar > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:52:11 -0300 > Subject: LF: Argo now QRSS90 >=20 > OK, i will change to 90sec >=20 > Regards Alex >=20 >=20 > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Scott Tille= y > Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 22:30 > Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Asunto: Re: LF: Fw: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina. >=20 > Hi Alex >=20 > I recommend you try 90sec dot so you can see more QRGs in the grabbe= r.=20 > You may see Japan and NA tonight! >=20 > Scott >=20 >=20 > Alejandro D Alvarez LU8YD wrote: > > Stefan: > > > > All EU LF BCD reception was in rural site, not in my regular QTH,= (urban > > zone in Neuquen city: FF51xb) > > > > I have audio records of Europe AM Broadcast=20 > > > > You can download audio record in WAV and MP3 in this site: > > www.qsl.net/lu8yd/LW > > > > There are not any LF broadcast in South America, all broadcast her= e in MW > > 530-1710 KHz. Below 530 KHz only NDB aero beacon. Not time signals= . > > > > LU1DOW confirm my error in ARGO last night : +0.2 Hz, I confirm th= is value > > receiving weak signal 153.000 Europe Broadcast 1 hour ago. > > > > LU1DOW Oscar generate his LF signal with IC-756 at 13.777 Mhz divi= ng for > > 100. > > > > Oscar waits 2 hours for temperature stabilization before TX on. > > > > Now Argo is calibrated in QRSS120 also with the correct offset, I= use R-75 > > always in USB 137.000. > > > > My station grabber is active only on request because I am NDB hunt= er and I > > have only one Receiver and Inverted L antenna, now I am making 1.3= m x 1.3 > m > > square loop antenna for 137 Khz and I am waiting MFJ-1026 noise cancelling > > from USA for better reception. > > > > Now my grabber is uploading capture for all station interested in= DX > > capture from Argentina.( centered 137.777 QRSS120) (QTH FF51xb) > > > > Regards Alex LU8YD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Stefan Sc= h=E4fer > > Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 19:39 > > Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Asunto: Re: LF: Fw: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina. > > > > Alex, > > > > Your QTH and RX sounds interesting! It is a real benefit not to ha= ve=20 > > mains hum near the RX! > > > > You said you can receive EU LF BCD stations: Please, what S/N is= DLF=20 > > (Deutschlandfunk) at 153 kHz (AM) and what S/N is DCF39 at 138.83= kHz?=20 > > This could become an interesting information since those stations= are=20 > > located near the amateur radio LF band. > > > > If you have SpecLab as an alternative you could monitor the levels= of=20 > > those two stations over 24 hours and can show us the dayly depende= ncy of > > S/N. > > > > Are there any LF BCD stations in Argentinia, as close as possible= to 137 > > kHz? > > > > I hope you will receive my signal this saturday night! :-) > > > > Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC > >=20 > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Alejandro D Alvarez LU8YD" > >> To: > >> Cc: "'Alan Melia'" > >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:32 PM > >> Subject: RV: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina. > >> > >> > >> Alan: i resent this email to you because reflector not forward it= to the > >> list > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Is a pleasure to report the successful reception of the LU1DOW te= st > >> transmission in QRSS10 137 KHz past August 21. > >> > >> LU1DOW station: Tx 400W Power out Antenna: 100 m inverted L. ERP:= ???? > >> grid locator: GF05rm. > >> > >> LU8YD station: Icom R-75 + Argo + HP530 notebook, Antenna: 100 m Inverted > >>=20 > > L > >=20 > >> wire with home made tunner, two ground rods and 20 m radial for > grounding, > >> all operated with 12 Vcc GEL battery energy system QTH: special= rural > >>=20 > > site > >=20 > >> without human QRM without electric lines. Locator: FF50sp, distan= ce to > >> LU1DOW: 1035 km. > >> > >> In this site also good reception of Europe AM Broadcast in LW ban= d. > >> > >> I attached four capture images, QTR is local time (UTC- 3), see= two other > >> UNID signals some Hz up. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Alex LU8YD > >> > >> > >> > >> __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la= base de > >>=20 > > firmas > >=20 > >> de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ > >> > >> ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la= base de > >>=20 > > firmas > >=20 > >> de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ > >> > >> ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >>=20 > >>=20 > > > > > > E-mail clasificado por el Identificador de Spam Inteligente de Telef=F3nica. > > Para modificar la categor=EDa clasificada acceda a su webmail. > > > > Este mensaje ha sido verificado por el Antivirus de Mail de Telef= =F3nica. > > > > > > > > __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la= base de > firmas > > de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ > > > > ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > >=20 > > > > __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la= base de > firmas > > de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ > > > > ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. > > > > http://www.eset.com > >=20 > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > E-mail clasificado por el Identificador de Spam Inteligente de Telef= =F3nica. > Para modificar la categor=EDa clasificada acceda a su webmail. >=20 > Este mensaje ha sido verificado por el Antivirus de Mail de Telef=F3= nica. >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la ba= se de firmas > de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ >=20 > ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. >=20 > http://www.eset.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la ba= se de firmas > de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ >=20 > ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. >=20 > http://www.eset.com >=20 >=20 >=20 __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi=F3n de la base= de firmas de virus 5335 (20100802) __________ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com _____ =20 E-mail clasificado por el Identificador de Spam Inteligente de Telef= =F3nica. 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OK, yo= u can not do anything against nature, only patience! SAludos.

 

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Lauren= ce KL7UK
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 22:57
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: RE: LF: Argo now QRSS90

 

Maybe better, maybe not :-) -- Ive very noisy here this evening with po= orer weather moving in over the next couple of days - cold front moving Sou= th into the mid states will produce quite a few thunderstorms so not so= good for DX - we shall see..Saludos...
 

 
> From: alex2003@infovia.com.ar
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:52:11 -0300
> Subject: LF: Argo now QRSS90
>
> OK, i will change to 90sec
>
> Regards Alex
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Scott Ti= lley
> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 22:30
> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Asunto: Re: LF: Fw: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina.
>
> Hi Alex
>
> I recommend you try 90sec dot so you can see more QRGs in the gra= bber.
> You may see Japan and NA tonight!
>
> Scott
>
>
> Alejandro D Alvarez LU8YD wrote:
> > Stefan:
> >
> > All EU LF BCD reception was in rural site, not in my regular= QTH, (urban
> > zone in Neuquen city: FF51xb)
> >
> > I have audio records of Europe AM Broadcast
> >
> > You can download audio record in WAV and MP3 in this site: > > www.qsl.net/lu8yd/LW
> >
> > There are not any LF broadcast in South America, all broadca= st here in MW
> > 530-1710 KHz. Below 530 KHz only NDB aero beacon. Not time= signals.
> >
> > LU1DOW confirm my error in ARGO last night : +0.2 Hz, I conf= irm this value
> > receiving weak signal 153.000 Europe Broadcast 1 hour ago. > >
> > LU1DOW Oscar generate his LF signal with IC-756 at 13.777 Mh= z diving for
> > 100.
> >
> > Oscar waits 2 hours for temperature stabilization before TX= on.
> >
> > Now Argo is calibrated in QRSS120 also with the correct offs= et, I use R-75
> > always in USB 137.000.
> >
> > My station grabber is active only on request because I am ND= B hunter and I
> > have only one Receiver and Inverted L antenna, now I am maki= ng 1.3 m x 1.3
> m
> > square loop antenna for 137 Khz and I am waiting MFJ-1026 no= ise cancelling
> > from USA for better reception.
> >
> > Now my grabber is uploading capture for all station interest= ed in DX
> > capture from Argentina.( centered 137.777 QRSS120) (QTH FF51= xb)
> >
> > Regards Alex LU8YD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Ste= fan Sch=E4fer
> > Enviado el: lunes, 30 de agosto de 2010 19:39
> > Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Asunto: Re: LF: Fw: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina.<= br> > >
> > Alex,
> >
> > Your QTH and RX sounds interesting! It is a real benefit not= to have
> > mains hum near the RX!
> >
> > You said you can receive EU LF BCD stations: Please, what S/= N is DLF
> > (Deutschlandfunk) at 153 kHz (AM) and what S/N is DCF39 at= 138.83 kHz?
> > This could become an interesting information since those sta= tions are
> > located near the amateur radio LF band.
> >
> > If you have SpecLab as an alternative you could monitor the= levels of
> > those two stations over 24 hours and can show us the dayly= dependency of
> > S/N.
> >
> > Are there any LF BCD stations in Argentinia, as close as pos= sible to 137
> > kHz?
> >
> > I hope you will receive my signal this saturday night! :-) > >
> > Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Alejandro D Alvarez LU8YD"<alex2003@infovia.com.ar>
> >> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >> Cc: "'Alan Melia'"<alan.melia@btinternet.co= m>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:32 PM
> >> Subject: RV: Sucessful LF 137 KHz test in Argentina.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan: i resent this email to you because reflector not= forward it to the
> >> list
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is a pleasure to report the successful reception of the= LU1DOW test
> >> transmission in QRSS10 137 KHz past August 21.
> >>
> >> LU1DOW station: Tx 400W Power out Antenna: 100 m inverte= d L. ERP: ????
> >> grid locator: GF05rm.
> >>
> >> LU8YD station: Icom R-75 + Argo + HP530 notebook, Antenn= a: 100 m Inverted
> >>
> > L
> >
> >> wire with home made tunner, two ground rods and 20 m rad= ial for
> grounding,
> >> all operated with 12 Vcc GEL battery energy system QTH:= special rural
> >>
> > site
> >
> >> without human QRM without electric lines. Locator: FF50s= p, distance to
> >> LU1DOW: 1035 km.
> >>
> >> In this site also good reception of Europe AM Broadcast= in LW band.
> >>
> >> I attached four capture images, QTR is local time (UTC-= 3), see two other
> >> UNID signals some Hz up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> Alex LU8YD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi= =F3n de la base de
> >>
> > firmas
> >
> >> de virus 5335 (20100802) __________
> >>
> >> ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje.
> >>
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ Informaci=F3n de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versi= =F3n de la base de
> >>
> > firmas
> >
> >> de virus 5335 (20100802) __________
> >>
> >> ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje.
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> >> http://www.eset.com
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