Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4613 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 16622 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 13:44:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tSzs-0007BA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:48 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tSzk-0007B1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:40 +0000 Received: from [80.40.88.20] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18tSzj-0008La-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:43:39 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:42:36 -0000 Message-ID: <01C2E966.68104D30.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:42:33 -0000 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: The leT/A of the law Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0tests=X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.50 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false If you are in the house it is attended operation. Personal beacons are intended for reception by radio amateurs and are not classed as broadcast type signals. Look at your BR68. The way I overcame the 15 minute rule on the first SLOWCW tests was to incorporate a fast CW ident into every dot period. Then a dot would consist of 20WPM plus carrier, a dash, this process repeated 3 times. The result appears as a 30 - 40% power reduction for the few seconds that the fast ident is being sent. The SLOWCW software I wrote, still used by a few on these bands does do this. - "Rules are for the guidance of wise men and for blind observance by fools" - By the way, if anyone knows the source of this quote then please let me know! It is probably not Shakespeare, but everyone I have enquired from, including several English teachers, have all "heard it" but cannot place the source. Andy G4JNT (still lurking on this reflector but lost interest in operating LF) -----Original Message----- From: Hugh M0WYE [SMTP:m0wye@thersgb.net] Sent: 2003/03/13 08:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: The leT/A of the law Hi All, It seems to me that this transatlantic stuff is stretching the rules somewhat. a) It is difficult to send your callsign every 15 minutes when it takes that longer than that to send your callsign ! b) With people setting their transmitter to come on with timers in the early hours while they are asleep, you can hardly call it "attended" operation. c) There beacon type transmissions are more in the nature of a broadcast, than establishing contact, individually, with other licenced amateurs. I'm not saying anybody's doing anything "wrong" because it has all been very much within the spirit of amateur radio - I'm just wondering if the rules need to be looked at, and modified to allow the use of very low-speed communications. 73 Hugh M0WYE