Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15553 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 13:42:06 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 13:42:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 9702 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 13:41:02 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 13:41:02 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 188hT1-0004mj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:40:35 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188hT0-0004ma-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:40:35 +0000 Received: from [212.1.150.132] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 188hMy-0003rK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:34:21 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:39:18 -0000 Message-ID: <01C28407.92EC1C60.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:39:17 -0000 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: VS: Feeding an inverted L-antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0tests=GAPPY_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.42 X-Spam-Level: * Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Beacause the optimum lowest loss matching network is always the one with the lowest possible Q. And the lowest possible Q is given by an L match. Here the L match is formed by the series inductance which has the dual job of cancelling out most of the capacitive reactance. One this is done whatever real part of the impedance has to be matched, which can be done with a little bit more L followed by a shunt C to give a required impedance - or more aften as is done on these bands the transmitter is then matched into whatever residual impedance is presented. Due to the dominance of the ground resistance, this often turns out to be some useable value in the 20 - 100 ohm range. Any other components added over those required to make a basic match are likely to add extra loss. The one exception to this general rule is where extra components are added in order to deliberately broadband match a load impedance. The mathemateically correct procedure for this is probably to start off with something like a chebshev network (as in the filters) and go from there - but these days designers just plug the requirements into a circuit optimiser and press the go button - then trust the results. Broadband matching something that is inherently very narrow band such as an LF antenna is not possible, or at least not without incurring considerable losses away from resonance. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com [SMTP:jan-martin.noding@telenor.com] Sent: 2002/11/04 12:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: VS: Feeding an inverted L-antenna Wonder why seems to be a habit use a series coil to tune out the capacitance of the 136kHz aerial, instead of more normal sort of matching - using T- or L-network Below is shown some impedance for a thought antenna (had to enter some radial length for the program to work) using ENDFEED.exe provided by G4FGQ H. Height, metres .. 10.0 N. Number of buried radial wires . 2 L. Length, metres .. 150.0 R. Length of radials, metres ..... 50.0 W. Wire dia, mm .... 2.00 D. Diameter of radial wires, mm .. 1.0 F. Frequency Kilo-Hz 136 S. Strap length to radials, metres 3.0 G. Ground characteristics:- Average soil: R = 100, K = 12 H+L+S = 0.074 wavelengths. R ohms jX ohms Tune out jX with FEEDPOINT INPUT IMPEDANCE: 18.9 -1096.1 1282.7 micro-Henrys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <-- Transcvr Shunt L Antenna --> T-NETWORK L & C values: 142 pF 3666.6 uH 295 pF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <-- Transcvr Series X Antenna --> L-NETWORK L & C values: 2086.4 uH 3328.4 uH Alternative L & C values: 656 pF 794.7 uH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOSS in T-match coil 25.4 % of Tx Pwr GROUND ELECTRODE SYSTEM, INPUT Z in antenna conductor 3.3 % .. .. .. DC Resistance 2.9 ohms in soil in vicinity 42.6 % .. .. .. RF Resistance 7.2 .. in system of radials 28.6 % .. .. .. RF Reactance 7.0 .. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Overall power radiating efficiency .. 0.05 percent Overall loss relative to ideal system 33.1 decibels or 5.5 'S-points' Select H,L,W,F,N,R,D,S,G to change data, B(egin again) or Q(uit program) you find the program on the link below >======================== >Free Radio Design Software >Go to http://www.g4fgq.com >======================== 73, Jan_Martin LA8AK (in JO38XC http://www.laud.no/la6nca/la8ak/ NOTE: Because of heavy spamming now applying eremove.exe, please avoid odd titles! << File: ATT00000.htm >>