Return-Path: Received: (qmail 796 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 09:50:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 09:50:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8703 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 09:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 09:50:39 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Umrg-0005BC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:44:16 +0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net ([212.1.130.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Umrc-0005B7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:44:12 +0000 Received: from [212.1.148.147] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Ulwf-0000P9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:45:22 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:51:41 -0000 Message-ID: <01C09A51.2D7E6320.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Re: Another code Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:51:15 -0000 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Correct :-( But someone has now forwarded the semaphore alphabet so when a few idle few minutes come along .......... More seriously, we can go on inventing new signalling methods and alphabets ad-infinitum. But we'll always come up against Shannon's law eventually. There is an absolutely fundamental limit to the amount of information that can be sent over a noisy channel in a given bandwidth. Nothing will change that, and with all the crude signalling schemes we play with on LF, we are many tens of dB short of the Shannon limit. But until hams actually want to start pushing technology again like they did only a couple of decades ago instead of being pulled by it......... But it is fun playing :-) Andy G4JNT Andy.. You're joking, aren't you? It would probably end up disregarded too, like some other modes, by some, and the weather isn't allways that helpfull. Ko.. -----Original Message----- From: Ko Versteeg [SMTP:nl9222@wanadoo.nl] Sent: 2001/02/18 18:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Another code At 2/18/01 17:34:00, you wrote: >Sort of suggests a Multifrequency Version similar to SMT Hell. >There's a thought. :-) > >Easy to do with the DDS driver. >What is the Semaphore alphabet ? > >Andy G4JNT >