Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3435 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2001 21:13:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Aug 2001 21:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29490 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2001 21:13:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 11 Aug 2001 21:13:42 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Vfqk-0005gZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:59:14 +0100 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.15]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Vfqi-0005gU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:59:13 +0100 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.133]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010811205756.EVZA596077.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:57:56 +1200 Message-ID: <019901c122a8$410ff720$0100007f@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c12059$7533ed00$f36e01d5@default> Subject: LF: Re: Computer hash reduction Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:56:54 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Alan, OK on your efforts at installing a filtered IEC fitting in the older power supply. > It is not an original idea but I decided an 'easy' solution might be to fit > a filtered IEC socket into the power supply box. A quick look at the spec > suggested that a 1 Amp or 3 Amp rated unit would be best as the chokes have > a higher inductance in the lower current rated sockets. I decided that > although a 1 Amp rated socket should be OK for a 250W supply I would play > safe and install a 3Amp unit (I also just conveniently happened to have one > in the junk box!!). snip > The results are quite pleasing. The clutch of six or seven 50Hz spaced > lines, with the strongest at S9 have disapeared and I can just see two or > three weak lines ( during the day. I suspect I may be able to get rid even of these by a bit of > careful re-routing of the leads and aerial feeds. Be wary of the range of inductance values used in IEC sockets. Some filtered sockets have rather low rejection in the LF band, even if they are fine for VHF/UHF broadcast bands. Another problem with some computer power supplies is that there are pairs of wire links "substituting" for a ferrite suppression choke in the mains input section. Suppression chokes have standard pinout, so they can be retrofitted if you can salvage them from some other PC junk. An external filter can also be effective, and is not so constrained as to size of inductors, for example, potcores can be used. At LF conducted noise is the main problem and the extra metre or two of power cords to reach the external filter is acceptable at the lower bands, as such a short lead has negligible "radiation resistance". Having an external inline filter also allows the computer peripheral devices to have their mains cords filtered as well (almost any PC device has a ruddy switch mode power supply, I have yet to find one that has no radio noise on the lower bands). Having an external filter is also quite handy for testing as sometimes it is the power supply in a monitor rather than the PC box that generates worst radio noises. For some time I have used an external inline filter on the household PC and another on the household TV, video, etc. Keep an eye out for mains filters at junk sales .... 73, Bob