Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG082-9f64acd1cba2d4; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:57:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f64acd1cba2d4; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:56:59 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MvfQX-0001hI-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:56:09 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MvfQW-0001h9-V9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:56:09 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MvfQL-0007xg-8u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:55:59 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Oct 2009 22:55:50 -0000 Received: from p5DD35ABE.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.90.190] by mail.gmx.net (mp066) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2009 00:55:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+NHF8UTe+NEGh/CdEJZXFePvZBRUlFRB0hjBHvDL geNTY5Noxqren6 Message-ID: <017801ca47a1$50ba16c0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <93C8E5590CBD43DE8C014BB34BBA2D99@AGB> <9BFD5704BD8F426BBF6517F55CA7DB6F@AGB> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:55:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53,0.53 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<< Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0174_01CA47B2.11E5BCE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01CA47B2.11E5BCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Graham, I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB. Average power of the tx will be halfed,therefore current drop to 0,7x, pep power per signal wil be one fourth. Remember the two tone test of a ssb tx. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:14 AM Subject: >>> PSK31 ADDED LF: Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<< Added PSK31 on 503.300 , will be a -3 dB drop in peak level when in simultaneous TX due to tx alc action 503.000 throb -2- 503.300 PSK31 Tnx - G .. From: Graham Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency Thank you for the report Gerhard Be interested as to your comments on the decode , compared to the psk qso as it looks like the condx are worse ? What is the peak signal level ? tnx - G From: Graham Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center frequency Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 running : fldigi , throb mode -2- center frequency 503.000 Khz TX set USB , Rx 'on during 60 second tx pause , Interested to see how the mode prints / recovers in the noise / qsb Reports welcome , Tnx - Graham G0NBD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.5/2419 - Release Date: 10/07/09 05:18:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01CA47B2.11E5BCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham,
 
I would expect a -6dB drop, not -3dB.=
Average power of the tx will be halfe= d,therefore=20 current drop to 0,7x,
pep power per signal wil be one=20 fourth.
Remember the two tone test of a ssb= =20 tx.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Thursday, October 08,= 2009 12:14=20 AM
Subject: >>> PSK31= ADDED LF:=20 Throb -2- on 503.000 AND PSK31 503.300 <<<<<<<&= lt;

Added  PSK31  on  50= 3.300  ,=20 will be a  -3 dB  drop in peak level when in simultaneous&= nbsp; TX=20 due to  tx alc action
 
503.000    thro= b=20 -2-
503.300    PSK3= 1=20
 
    Tnx - G ..=

From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 cen= ter=20 frequency

Thank you  for the  repor= t Gerhard=20
 
Be interested as to your  comm= ents on=20 the  decode , compared to the  psk qso
as it looks like the  condx ar= e worse ?=20
 
What is the  peak signal level= =20 ?
 
tnx - G
 

From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: LF: Throb -2- Beacon running on 503.000 center= =20 frequency

Throb 2 beacon on 503.000 
 
running  :  fldigi , throb mode -2- center  freque= ncy  503.000 Khz=20
 
TX  set USB , Rx 'on during&nb= sp; 60 second=20 tx pause ,
 
Interested to  see  how= the  mode=20 prints / recovers  in the  noise / qsb 
 
Reports welcome ,
 
Tnx - Graham
G0NBD
 
 


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