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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:58:40 +0100
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Hi Gary it must be raining up North :-)) I find when the kids are on holiday
that usually clogs up the local system, not too bad if the wether is good
they go and play football. But if we they are all downloading  music and
videos and if pushed searching for answers for their holiday homework. :-))
I think you might stick this down to holiday congestion....... my guess is
Friday will be bad too......... I dont know why though :-))

Links and attachment often seem to trigger spam trapping as do frequency use
of pound and dollar signs. Refelector traffic seems to satrt on the wrong
foot as being classified as a "bulk" posting it is low priority mail, and is
slightly suspicious. I am amazed that Yaho traps its own group postings even
from private and moderated groups particularly mails that you have
originated. they also trap messages from my ISP .....BT-Yahoo :-))


Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: test again


> Alan, Marcus, LF,
>
> Just received one of my own postings via LF Reflector after 2 days & it
went
> in the spam folder. I don't normally have any problems. The post contained
a
> SpecLab capture.
>
> 73
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
> On 23 April 2011 23:17, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Do I get the message that some are having trouble with the reflector
> > again.??
> > Markus both tests came through here ok. Certainly the BT mail server was
> > very slow yesterday .....I believe reflector mail is classified as bulk
and
> > lower priority so can be delayed over personal mail.
> >
> > There are a couple of possibilities one is that you are not receiving
the
> > return addressed to you but everybody else gets it.....I have this
problem
> > on several of the Yahoo Groups . The return of my message always goes
into
> > the Spam folder. It can also get delayed en-route.
> >
> > Some ISPs who may have been marked due to no fault of yours as the
> > originators of spam soemtimes get blacklisted. The messages are just
dumped
> > there is no "cant deliver" because this ping-pongs backwards and
forwards
> > taking up more bandwidth. Sometimes the Blacklisting is very old and the
> > ISP
> > or perhaps an enroute node doesnt know hey are blacklisted.
> >
> > Sometimes an innocent word or sentence in the message will hit the spam
or
> > porn alarm and your message will get dumped. Some seem to get an "cant
> > deliver" response to some of these but the reasons for the infringement
are
> > almost impossible to work out.
> >
> > Specifically for Majordomo which is a very old piece of software......it
> > was
> > designed for text messages ....it will on occasions object violently to
> > some
> > HTML,  though passing others with no problem......I have never been able
to
> > understand exactly what is going on here. You should be aware it is
> > possible
> > to hide executing code and other nasties inside  HTML, so it is treated
> > with
> > suspicion. You will undoubtedly have noticed that all the pharma and
> > phishing emails use HTML you cant hide so easily in text.
> >
> > Generally incoming (to UK) mails seem to suffer worse than UK originated
> > .....Again I am not sure why but the problem may somewhere on the route.
If
> > you are very clever you can learn a lot from the headers........but I
cant
> > help there.
> >
> > suggestions.....try a simple text only message, try using a different
> > address (ideally a different ISP) I seem to remember one user recently
was
> > having problems with t-online.de
> >
> > ....and dont worry Yahoo has it problems as well ....any system that
tags
> > its own moderated messages as spam has got to be neurotic :-))
> >
> > I hope that helps
> >
> > Alan G3NYK
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:25 PM
> > Subject: LF: test again
> >
> >
> >
> >
>