Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-9814a009ea824a; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:17:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-9814a009ea824a; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:16:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M1R3r-0002yD-Tg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:16:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M1R3r-0002y4-Dg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:16:19 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1R3o-00023K-3j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:16:18 +0100 X-Trace: 194058312/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.18.229/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.18.229 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEAF87AEpYahLl/2dsb2JhbACDKIcVhBPCXweDegU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,299,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="194058312" Received: from 88-106-18-229.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.18.229]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 May 2009 21:15:15 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <200904031959.n33Jxrvn028438@smtpa1.mediabeam.com><20090504220936.59jcwemhlo004wkk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><01a401c9ccfd$f04e8640$6401a8c0@asus><20090504233650.cpq3ip6kir688ogo@webmail4.kuleuven.be><005d01c9cd6b$620ddc00$6401a8c0@asus><20090505121435.9F59DF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be><20090505152548.71C37F3865@smtps02.kuleuven.be><00df01c9cdac$e9a407c0$6401a8c0@asus> <20090505214422.o47capffyyb4oog0@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:15:15 +0100 Message-ID: <010401c9cdbe$34277050$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20090505214422.o47capffyyb4oog0@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcnNumIWbBxY2XGaRm6ZpMklC6mn+wAA7EkQ X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: RE: rtty test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, MTTY is set up as you suggested. Waiting your signal now. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 05 May 2009 20:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: RE: rtty test Hello Gary, LF, I just had a first transmission. I will try short transmissions every 10-15 minutes or so until my signal shows up un your grabber. Then I will start longer transmissions. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > OK Rik, > > I will look at the settings you describe in MTTY to allow me to monitor, I > normally use TrueTTY. > > Thanks for the info. > > Cheers, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe > Sent: 05 May 2009 16:26 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: RE: LF: RE: rtty test > > Gary, LF, > > I just had a look at MMTTY and it seems pretty easy to set it to 50Hz > shift and 22Bd baudrate. > The way I did it: > 1. As a start select 23Hz RTTY (in "Profiles") > 2. In "Options" select "Setup MMTTY" > 3. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Shift" from 23 tot 50 (it is not > a standard option, but you can just type 50 into the field) > 4. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Mark" to a suitable value (that > is the audio frequency you get) > 5. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Discriminator Type" from VCO to FIR BPF > 6. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Tap" from 72 to 256 > 7. In the tab "Demodulator" click on "OK" > 8. In the tab "Decode" change "BaudRate" from 45 tot 22 and click "OK" > Steps 5-7 set demodulator type, the values above are the result of > some brief dry tests and can most likely still be optimized. You can > do that in the main screen. > > If WX permits (no rain) I intend to run some tests between 20:30 and > 21:30 UTC on 503.5kHz in mode USB (so if you listen in LSB don't > forget to select reverse mode). > I will announce the exact hours later this evening. > Between transmissions I will listen on the same frequency. > > All reports (or replies) are welcome. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > At 14:14 5/05/2009, you wrote: >> Hello Gary, >> >> I had a closer look at the 23Hz shift option of MMTTY and it seems >> to run at 45Bd what is on the edge regarding the shift/baudrate >> ratio. That is most likely the reason why it is not so robust. >> Using 45Bd at 85Hz shift would exceed the 100Hz bandwidth limit. >> I guess the best option for RTTY would be a shift around 50Hz and a >> lower baudrate (say 20Bd) what would well fit within the 100Hz >> bandwidth and would have a sufficient shift/baudrate ratio to >> provide a robust signal. >> I will see if I can get such signal out of MMTTY and - if time >> permits - run some tests tonight. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 12:22 5/05/2009, you wrote: >>> Hi Rik, >>> >>> You have experienced the same as I did with 23Hz shift, the signal needs > to >>> be very strong to decode. It was in the last 2 minutes that I got the >>> partial decode. >>> >>> A much better shift to use is the 85Hz which will fit into your spec. >>> >>> I have had good QSO's with Chris G3XIZ in Biggleswade both of us using > 85Hz. >>> >>> Give that a try next time & I believe I will get a much better decode >>> judging by the strength of your signal. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >>> Sent: 04 May 2009 22:37 >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: rtty test >>> >>> Hello Gary, >>> >>> call the is almost right, locator completely. >>> But not really impressive for 500mW ERP. >>> I could see my signal on your grabber, some slow QSB but strong for >>> the last 2 minutes or so. >>> I used MTTY with the profile "23Hz RTTY (MTTY)" without any further >>> changes, not sure that this is the best mode. >>> So any advice is welcome. >>> I have also installed MultiPSK, but am still overwhelmed by the colors >>> and options. >>> I am allowed to use any digital mode as long as I stick to max. 100Hz >>> bandwidth. >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT : >>> >>> > Hi Rik, >>> > >>> > This is the best I could do, it looks like almost your call sign & > locator >>> > :- >>> > >>> > RHTQHTST DE TC(TIOJ7T OR1T JO20IX >>> > >>> > 73 >>> > >>> > Gary - G4WGT. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >>> > Sent: 04 May 2009 21:10 >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Subject: LF: rtty test >>> > >>> > dear all, >>> > >>> > I will run a short (10 minute) rtty test (23Hz shift) on 503.500 at > 21UTC >>> > Reports and/or reply welcome. >>> > >>> > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > >