Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC102-b20497cb9761ef; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:12:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC054-b20497cb9761ef; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:11:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LRAOY-0003QS-Eb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LRAOX-0003QH-Tr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:45 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.55]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRAOU-0002Fn-1O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:45 +0000 X-Trace: 132944754/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.2.20/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.2.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAFBIfElYagIU/2dsb2JhbACDRD+GFoNFvQ0GhUU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,322,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="132944754" Received: from 88-106-2-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.2.20]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 19:11:34 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20090125092908.0aec06a4@lurcher><7EC707A6E2D94414AEBBC52C6159581C@JimPC><002001c97f0a$cf16fac0$ae01a8c0@youry0mkaz8jaq><20090125165335.47fc3399@lurcher><7690F13DCE5D44BA8A5AA126607E7979@JimPC> <20090125180430.1d63e1c7@lurcher> <6449616DC58940A19C537A59F53828DA@AGB> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:34 -0000 Message-ID: <00d201c97f20$bd909520$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <6449616DC58940A19C537A59F53828DA@AGB> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acl/G4ijev7gNPp7QaGJWD7e20Gl7gABHH8A X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.145 Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi All, In agreement with John & Graham, I believe that makes sense. The top part of the band is probably the least used area so we just need to agree on a 200Hz slot of either 503.800 to 504.000KHz with no guard band or 503.700 to 503.900KHz with a 100Hz guard band. My WSPR beacon is now active using dial frequency 502.000KHz & 503.550KHz data. Looks like Andy just beat me to the announcement. 73 Gary - G4WGT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 25 January 2009 18:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 John, Looks close to my post , just, as wspr is such a narrow mode, could move to the band edge without problems clear of the occasional qrss slightly lower down With a move to vfo/exciter control, defining the wspr slot is a reasonable concept as it will allow other 'casual' monitor stations to be established .. and negate the number of post needed to announce a test ! What of the beacons that used this area of the band , are they qrt or just sleeping ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John P-G" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:04 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:40:27 +0000 > Andy Talbot wrote: > >> Is there some sort of unofficial bandplan on this band? > > Oh no! > > Please let's not get into this again.... > > At the moment there is no bandplan, but general concensus would > indicate "beacons at the band edges - real QSOs in the middle". > > The current WSPR activity around 503.5 (502.0 dial) seems reasonable, > although moving up a few hundred Hz wouldn't hurt, say to 502.3 dial > which gives a 200Hz window at 503.7 - 503.9 > > There are often CW mode beacons near the bottom of the band - GI4DPE, > GW3UEP and others, and it's convenient to have them there - it allows > monitoring them and SK6RUD concurrently. > > > That's just my view on how things have evolved. > > "Real Man's CW" seems to live around 502.63 > > John > GM4SLV > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: > 1/24/2009 20:40 >