Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5573 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 23:53:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 23:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28577 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 23:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 23:53:04 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16OSV3-00040j-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 23:51:17 +0000 Received: from [195.120.73.201] (helo=netregister.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16OSV2-00040e-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 23:51:16 +0000 Received: from ik2dedlibero (brescia17.phoenix.it [213.82.97.81]) by netregister.it (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g09NoPF04906 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: <00ca01c1954a$1d85a1a0$516152d5@it> From: "Giulio Scaroni" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E0333C157@btss103a.swh.sk> Subject: LF: Re: 136kHz in Poland...and Eastern Europe. Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:03:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: OM2TW wrote: > Hi LF-ers.... As I know, only few stations are active (YO2IS and HA6PC). 136kHz is alowed in > some countries (Croatia, Ukraine, Russia, Estonia) but still no activities. > In that reason I agree with Dave G3YXM "...Let's make Sunday, "CW actrivity > day", people listen then and if they hear nothing they won't bother to get > on the band.....". But to increase the activity in that part of Europe, you > must have a good CW signal around whole Europe. I'm in the central Europe, > but it's the corner of the LF activities. Most of the stations are from > Germany and UK and the majority of all my worked stations are more than > 700km faraway. If you put the station in the air from UK, you may work a lot > of stations in range about 300km in a few days. But let's try here, I have > only 3 LF stations in around 250km ! I have some friends who are often on > 136kHz and listening for the stations spoted in the DX-cluster. On the > average top band antenna they have a possibility to hear only a few stations > with a very good signal. I was a very active station on 160m and I know that > working DX stations with low power (100W and less) on top band is waste of > time. The same count here. The only way, how to increase the activity on the > band and bring some more hams between us, is the way of increasing the power > and growing our antennas. > > 73 de Rich OM2TW Yes Rich, i agree with you, the problem that you have is like we have also here in Italy, no activity from South, not many station in Central/ North, except few I5, one I1, few I2, the Alps in North do the rest. I am tryng now to made a station in 136, but the bigger problem is that there are not activity to test the equipment, here we dont have the CW activity like in DL and G centered at 136.5, so the low activity on saturday/sunday that we can receive here is only in qrss at 137.7, for average station. So, for me a beacon network like the network that we have in 20 and upper band, may be no bad, for example at 135.7, sweepping normal cw, qrss 3, qrss10 dfcw etc. In this way the hams may set the receiving side, and try the better way to receive with the PC and software at different speed and mode of emission, and later, to transmitt. In other way is a very difficult band, not all the people may test the station with the big signal from Ik5ZPV (599) or OM2TW (599+) at 135.922 in the night! I believe that soon i'll put in air a low power beacon here in I2, to help the local hams in this band. 73 to all, and i hope to meet someone soon on the band (when i'll be ready, yes!!) IK2DED Giulio (from Topband to LF hi)