Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18952 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2000 07:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 12 Feb 2000 07:15:46 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12JWfo-0000ag-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:08:56 +0000 Received: from host.king.igs.net ([216.58.2.2]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12JWfn-0000ab-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:08:55 +0000 Received: from server1 (ttyC13.king.igs.net [216.58.2.141]) by host.king.igs.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id CAA39374 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:08:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kayser@king.igs.net) Message-ID: <00ca01bf7527$ffa94180$0a00a8c0@server1.ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Summary of tonight, VA3LK hearing Europe on LF Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:08:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Greetings All: The sun has now risen in Europe and the time has come for me to get some sleep over here. DCF39 on 138.83 kHz was very loud over here earlier this evening, peaking over 33 dB over the noise. Earlier DDH47 on 147.3 kHz was loud enough for a dash sent between the two segments of the transmission (17.74 seconds long measured here) to be clearly measured as some 16 dB over the noise. It is obvious that LF signals do cross the Atlantic in both directions, they cross with sufficient signal strength to make them interesting and to be a challenge for us amateurs to have some fun down the line. At one point I had excellent trace signals on the frequencies of SXV in Greece but NPG from California was doing a pretty good job on them just up the band a tiny bit..... I suggest we are not well served yet by the technology available to us. We need to consider modulation methods that will look different on the screens - multi level FSK or a CW signal with a big chirp that we can see as being different from the vertical and horizontal noise and garbage on the band. Maybe we also need some sort of alerting system to get the gang up and transmitting when the signals are at their peak. DCF39 is now way down in the mud, barely visible on the screen. Interestingly a signal on 138.815 is still riding along, not loud (and it has not been loud all night here) but it is always there. What and Where is it? On 137.6 there is a signal that comes and goes, looks like CW at times, but is definitely not loud enough tonight to be copied. Is it an amateur signal? What are you in Europe hearing on this QRG? To close, I have a package arriving here this weekend of audio tapes made by Jack, VE1ZZ. He has made some tapes to show me what he hears at his place on LF. He incidentally hears the LF Broadcasting stations during the winter as early at 1 and 2 PM!!!!! Jack lives in the Halifax area and he has a problem with 136 as CFH is on 137 and also on 133.15 and Jack is in the middle hi. He is interested in LF but he is not on the Internet. Jack's biggest complaint about LF is that his Beverage antenna is hopelessly short at some 1100 feet long. We should all have such hopelessly short antennas! Enough, I hope everyone has a good weekend. 73 for tonight. Larry VA3LK PS, DCF39 is gone completely now.... 0707 UTC