Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.10]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD082-8b914ccdb2492ed; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:15:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2851F380000A3; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PCcPU-00038L-Jk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:13:40 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PCcPT-00038C-Ub for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:13:39 +0000 Received: from smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PCcPR-0006LS-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:13:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 4432 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2010 18:13:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=dhJF+3bMCSXD7bQUGA5JnzaXoPBJiC12aFV6RPnfQhx8CI7B/GBXSgFrk9wkOl86JOmB7ra3W6seECP3V5zImUFIPNleTYvM+QXbOQ9QOW1Sks0kFCCrBxXsW1pIpfr+6w1ZvJU68RvvO5+1i3UT1+0nYFG0sxOAtS5ZsqzSMcg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1288548811; bh=3+0zvZJxRKDNWySaM1K7e7Ts3z7pa1KFTYfK7wE/Buk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=c34U2aqHH1pNgvTMmYN+uBhIeplxPHbiiDAkg9220hPU7ItkWam0wp023ZeoRhUsoPA3J83FGtUSb8vGCS3E7ZKuPtwG6a0T4yKCe5bSewczqWqOD0io8+GrstuZMSOzMyhwJLtLssYN5CkELtJis4rvASBux/KyffQLaDPDK6Y= Received: from lark (alan.melia@86.143.100.219 with login) by smtp815.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2010 18:13:31 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: QWsLBtEVM1kx2WmQvMKAO.UCBqfusUTQrWwfzOvKt_YpJz6 gHiaoHMwfr3KQUPhlUW.kLs7m2plP4UJIjcKzLEGhe7poLT0xKccB5HIWggw MTvVPGy_vUU9PsLMSbfgumaiISAv7kDHW98Q.o0bAyX9KbppK4MyBqByBOID a7toRFfvwh86FRtkhwCsr.oHcTLh3mjIGO6iow66BfTLIOhtaTdmA_Rq01cm c2Rn7h2WNYny7JA3M2jik4CbWahXa_.dgV7._8C0UFERZjXVJehBpbJmtrig 2XmXLBabSVZ8VKGS4vq4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00c401cb7927$5987d270$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4CCD3F0B.7040902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <004501cb78f2$b4d8ffd0$4001a8c0@lark> <4CCD8987.7060709@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:03:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101031-0, 31/10/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: QRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m279.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4ccdb2463412 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan its a difficult one...... at 0400 UTC only the east of Europ= e would be coming into daylight, and a flare would have no effect on the signals from the west (that would be in shadow to the X-rays and UV.)= The usual source of extra absorption, the Equatorial Ring Current is low= at present, but that doesnt meean something else is at work :-)) Alan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: Re: VLF: QRN Hi Alan, Please see the lower window/capture at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_LF_DX_Grabber.html The vertical strong lines there (0...4 UTC), may they come from this flare, strongly affecting the signal levels for some short whiles? Interesting... 73, Stefan Am 31.10.2010 12:56, schrieb Alan Melia: > Hi Jacek, interesting but there is no real cause for absorption at present, > and it would not affect groundwave. However there was a flare this= morning > at around 0400 0500z . This would have enhaced the skywave ay 225kHz= and > perhaps lead to destructive interference with the groundwave?? > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jacek Lipkowski" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: VLF: QRN > > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: > > >> The QRN on the Dreamers Band is as low as never before since i am >> > monitoring > >> the band. My DFCW-60 window is almost dark in the moment. [...] >> > there seems to be increased absorption right now, maybe due to solar > x-rays. i've just tried to show my daughter how a crystal radio work= s, and > can barely receive Warsaw 1 on 225kHz (with active antenna and tuned > circut). normally i would receive several stations with just a diode= and > low-impedance headphones. > > jacek > >