Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12147 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2003 09:31:10 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Apr 2003 09:31:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29959 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2003 09:31:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2003 09:31:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 190eSe-00087g-SV for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:23:12 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 190eSa-00087X-3K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:23:08 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.163]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030402092307.BLJ11888.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:23:07 +0100 Message-ID: <00c401c2f8f1$03937f40$a3e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:08:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re 73kHz Tuesday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.5 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: LF: Re 73kHz Tuesday > Plenty of activity, with approx sig level above estimated avg noise here in > Newport Pagnell: > > G3AQC 30dB > G3LDO 30dB > G3XDV 20dB > G3GRO 20dB > GM0MRF 10dB > > Saw some other transmissions, but wasn't around at the right time to get > callsigns (apologies to G3YXM and MI0AYZ) > > My normally high noise floor "switched off sometime after 9am, dropping the > noise floor down from a stead S9 to a more normal sound, varying around S2 > with occasional crashes up to S7. All of the signals above were audible, > That of G3AQC and G3LDO moved the S-meter to an S5. > > My own transmissions were carried out from the house via a 100m length of > coax to the loading coil and aerial. Interestingly, last month when the TX > was in the shed next to the loading coil I got an aerial current of just > under an amp. Today, with two toroidal transformers (to first transform > from around 4 ohms to 50ohms, and then from 50 ohms to around 200ohms - a > guess at matching the aerial), the aerial current all but disappeared. That > might explain why, despite CQs during the morning, afternoon and early > evening, I was only heard and worked by G3XDV. > > Much of the above will no doubt raise knowing smiles from you "old hands", > but an interesting day for me and some thoughts as to what to do next. I'd > really like to know the source of the noise; it's unlikely to be TVs since > it was still quiet at 8pm.... Hi John One QRM source these days is the prolific use of energy saving light bulbs. These are fatal in some cases for the LF operator. They seem to modulate the mains, which carries the QRM around the neigbourhood, even at great distances beyond the source, especially if you are on the same phase. This type of qrm can appear on any low freq and unfortunately 73 or 136 khz are within the spectrum. It appears as wavy lines spaced 100 hz apart on a frequency and can be very severe. I experienced this type of qrm once and was able to locate the source several hundred yards away f rom the antenna and when the offending bulbs were changed, problem solved. It did not effect the higher freqs like 160 metres, only down on the lower freqs. It is probably going to get worse in the future with dirty mains problems caused by smpsu's, the above light bulbs and all the digital devices coming more popular. Hope you get it solved. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > 73 and nice to hear/see the good signals on the band. > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > >