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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eddie If I am only decoding the QRO stn with my antennas those with uProbes, Orange box loops and Earth gas pipe antennas have no chance other than their neighbour over the fence !! I am seeing some vy weak ones but no decode it would appear, back to QRSS agn Yes I now see the DB with my reports. Leaving the WSPR scene soon and back real radio!! de mal/g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 2.3 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 106273dc57f67469cd8476e47a774b8b Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BF_01CE015B.D8DA9B20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da609510d344e3fc6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01CE015B.D8DA9B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eddie If I am only decoding the QRO stn with my antennas those with uProbes, = Orange box loops and Earth gas pipe antennas have no chance other than = their neighbour over the fence !! I am seeing some vy weak ones but no decode it would appear, back to = QRSS agn Yes I now see the DB with my reports. Leaving the WSPR scene soon and back real radio!! de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode You are OK uploading now and previous reports too. However you are only decoding high power stations. 2013-02-02 14:54 DK7FC 0.475690 -5 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:54 DG3LV 0.475794 -23 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:52 PA2RF 0.475682 -27 0 JO22gb = +23 0.200 G3KEV IO94sh 416 258=20 2013-02-02 14:50 DG3LV 0.475796 -25 -1 = JO53gv +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:48 DK7FC 0.475693 -15 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:48 GW8MLA 0.475708 -21 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 14:32 M1GEO 0.475699 -14 0 JO01cn = +10 0.010 G3KEV IO94sh 309 192=20 2013-02-02 14:30 DK7FC 0.475689 -5 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:28 DG3LV 0.475792 -26 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:28 GW8MLA 0.475702 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 14:24 DK7FC 0.475688 -6 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:22 DG3LV 0.475791 -27 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:20 GW8MLA 0.475701 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 14:18 PA2RF 0.475677 -28 1 JO22gb = +23 0.200 G3KEV IO94sh 416 258=20 2013-02-02 14:18 DK7FC 0.475687 -10 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:18 DG3LV 0.475790 -27 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:14 DG3LV 0.475790 -29 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:12 GW8MLA 0.475702 -13 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 14:12 DK7FC 0.475688 -4 -1 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:10 DG3LV 0.475792 -28 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:06 DK7FC 0.475688 -8 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:06 DG3LV 0.475791 -28 0 JO53gv = +43 19.953 G3KEV IO94sh 718 446=20 2013-02-02 14:00 DK7FC 0.475688 -7 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 14:00 GW8MLA 0.475703 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 13:58 PA0A 0.475778 +12 0 JO33de = +33 1.995 G3KEV IO94sh 461 286=20 2013-02-02 13:54 DK7FC 0.475688 -15 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 13:52 GW8MLA 0.475702 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 13:50 M1GEO 0.475690 -15 0 JO01cn = +10 0.010 G3KEV IO94sh 309 192=20 2013-02-02 13:48 DK7FC 0.475688 -10 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 13:44 M1GEO 0.475740 -22 0 JO01cn = +10 0.010 G3KEV IO94sh 309 192=20 2013-02-02 13:42 DK7FC 0.475686 -11 0 JN49ik = +30 1.000 G3KEV IO94sh 829 515=20 2013-02-02 11:30 GW8MLA 0.475724 -13 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 11:18 GW8MLA 0.475722 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 11:08 GW8MLA 0.475720 -12 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 10:48 GW8MLA 0.475719 -10 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 10:36 GW8MLA 0.475718 -11 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 2013-02-02 10:14 GW8MLA 0.475717 -21 0 = IO82js +20 0.100 G3KEV IO94sh 250 155=20 On 02/02/2013 14:27, mal hamilton wrote:=20 Eddie One problem that effects you and your QRP I am beaming E/W and you are to my south in the 40m loop null. I = will switch to the inv L later and maybe see u then. One other thing I do not see my callsign on the reports although I have ticked the = Upload box. I depend on time sync via internet. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode Mal I have increased my power by 10dB so you never know. However the = the other morning running this power on QRSS3 I called and called you = precisely on your frequency.. After one call the timing was so right = that I sent you a report over and over but no, you couldn't see me. Temperamental? In no way, it is solid and reliable believe me. At = first I use to measure accurately the 1.6Hz data steps when setting up a = PIC system, now I set it by eye and just look to make sure I get decoded = to -31dB from distant stations, tolerant or what. WSPR copes with frequency drifting TX's some drifting 3 times the = width of the signal, and get decoded. Eddie On 02/02/2013 13:49, mal hamilton wrote:=20 Ps things are improving now decoding DK7FC and M1GEO watch out you = could be next. Seems a temperamental mode g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode Eddie My Logic---If I can decode one then that should apply to all = the others ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode Simple one, but timing, is your timing OK? Eddie On 02/02/2013 11:32, mal hamilton wrote:=20 I am seeing quite a lot of acty on the waterfall and you = are probably there, 8 visible at present but Decode is a different = story. Like I said if these same stns were on QRSS I would get an = ID and you would probably be there also Most are audible with me and strong enough for a CW qso de g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode On 02/02/2013 10:40, mal hamilton wrote:=20 Strangely enough I can only decode GW8MLA and there = are another several stns active at present on WSPR-2. Most are strong = and audible de g3kev Well that will give you a rather distorted view of the = usefulness of the mode then. And you don't see me,=20 Beatles You think you've got everything you want And your bird can sing But you don't see me Do I remember the lyrics right? Eddie ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01CE015B.D8DA9B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eddie
If I am only decoding the QRO stn with my = antennas those=20 with uProbes, Orange box loops and Earth gas pipe antennas = have no=20 chance other than their neighbour over the fence !!
I am seeing some vy weak ones but no decode it = would=20 appear, back to QRSS agn
Yes I now see the DB with my = reports.
Leaving the WSPR scene soon and back real=20 radio!!
de mal/g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 g3zjo=20
Sent: Saturday, February 02, = 2013 3:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr = decode

You are OK uploading now and previous reports =20 too.

However you are only decoding high power = stations.
2013-02-02=20 14:54      DK7FC      0.475690 =      -5      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:54      DG3LV      0.475794 =      -23      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:52      PA2RF      0.475682 =      -27      0 =    =20  JO22gb      +23     =  0.200=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      416      258 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:50      DG3LV      0.475796 =      -25      -1 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:48      DK7FC      0.475693 =      -15      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:48      GW8MLA     =  0.475708=20      -21      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:32      M1GEO      0.475699 =      -14      0 =    =20  JO01cn      +10     =  0.010=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      309      192 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:30      DK7FC      0.475689 =      -5      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:28      DG3LV      0.475792 =      -26      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:28      GW8MLA     =  0.475702=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:24      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -6      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:22      DG3LV      0.475791 =      -27      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:20      GW8MLA     =  0.475701=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:18      PA2RF      0.475677 =      -28      1 =    =20  JO22gb      +23     =  0.200=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      416      258 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:18      DK7FC      0.475687 =      -10      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:18      DG3LV      0.475790 =      -27      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:14      DG3LV      0.475790 =      -29      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:12      GW8MLA     =  0.475702=20      -13      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:12      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -4      -1 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:10      DG3LV      0.475792 =      -28      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:06      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -8      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:06      DG3LV      0.475791 =      -28      0 =    =20  JO53gv      +43     =  19.953=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      718      446 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:00      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -7      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 14:00      GW8MLA     =  0.475703=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:58      PA0A      0.475778=20      +12      0 =    =20  JO33de      +33     =  1.995=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      461      286 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:54      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -15      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:52      GW8MLA     =  0.475702=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:50      M1GEO      0.475690 =      -15      0 =    =20  JO01cn      +10     =  0.010=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      309      192 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:48      DK7FC      0.475688 =      -10      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:44      M1GEO      0.475740 =      -22      0 =    =20  JO01cn      +10     =  0.010=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      309      192 =
 2013-02-02=20 13:42      DK7FC      0.475686 =      -11      0 =    =20  JN49ik      +30     =  1.000=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      829      515 =
 2013-02-02=20 11:30      GW8MLA     =  0.475724=20      -13      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 11:18      GW8MLA     =  0.475722=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 11:08      GW8MLA     =  0.475720=20      -12      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 10:48      GW8MLA     =  0.475719=20      -10      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 10:36      GW8MLA     =  0.475718=20      -11      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155 =
 2013-02-02=20 10:14      GW8MLA     =  0.475717=20      -21      0 =    =20  IO82js      +20     =  0.100=20      G3KEV      IO94sh=20      250      155

On=20 02/02/2013 14:27, mal hamilton wrote:=20
Eddie
One problem that effects you and your = QRP
I am beaming E/W and you are to my south in = the 40m=20 loop null. I will switch to the inv L later and maybe see u then. = One other=20 thing
I do not see my callsign on the reports = although I=20 have ticked the Upload box. I depend on time sync via = internet.
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 g3zjo
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, February = 02, 2013=20 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr = decode

Mal

I have increased my power by 10dB so you = never=20 know. However the the other morning running this power on = QRSS3  I=20 called and called you precisely on your frequency.. After one call = the=20 timing was so right that I sent you a report over and over but no, = you=20 couldn't see me.
Temperamental? In no way, it is solid and = reliable=20 believe me. At first I use to measure accurately the 1.6Hz data = steps when=20 setting up a PIC system, now I set it by eye and just look to make = sure I=20 get decoded to -31dB from distant stations, tolerant or = what.
WSPR=20 copes with frequency drifting TX's some drifting 3 times the width = of the=20 signal, and get decoded.

Eddie

On 02/02/2013 13:49, = mal=20 hamilton wrote:=20
Ps
things are improving now decoding DK7FC = and M1GEO=20 watch out you could be next. Seems a temperamental = mode
g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 mal hamilton
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Saturday, = February 02, 2013=20 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr=20 decode

Eddie
My Logic---If I can decode one then = that should=20 apply to all the others
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 g3zjo
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =
Sent: Saturday, = February 02,=20 2013 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr = decode

Simple one, but timing, is your timing=20 OK?

Eddie

On 02/02/2013 11:32, mal hamilton = wrote:=20
I am seeing quite a lot of acty on = the=20 waterfall and you are probably there, 8 visible at present = but=20 Decode is a different story.
Like I said if these same stns = were on QRSS=20 I would get an ID and you would probably be there=20 also
Most are audible with me and = strong enough=20 for a CW qso
de g3kev
 
----- Original Message = -----=20
From:=20 g3zjo
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, = February=20 02, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: = wspr=20 decode

On 02/02/2013 10:40, mal hamilton wrote:=20
Strangely enough I can only = decode=20 GW8MLA and there are another several stns active at = present on=20 WSPR-2. Most are strong and audible
de g3kev
 
Well that will give you = a rather=20 distorted view of the usefulness of the mode = then.

And=20 you don't see me,

Beatles

You think = you've got=20 everything you want
And your bird can sing
But you = don't=20 see me

Do I remember the lyrics=20 = right?

Eddie



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