Return-Path: Received: from rly-db03.mx.aol.com (rly-db03.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.78]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB062-aba47cb026f39b; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:39:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB038-aba47cb026f39b; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:39:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JVu0r-0006jL-SI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:38:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JVu0q-0006jC-Vr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:38:21 +0000 Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JVu0m-00077a-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:38:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 16786 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2008 19:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.209) by relay1 with SMTP; 2 Mar 2008 19:38:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 18606 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2008 19:38:00 -0000 X-AntiVirus: PTMail-AV 0.3-0.92.0 X-Virus-Status: Clean (0.05985 seconds) Received: from unknown (HELO TORRE) (hpessoa@sapo.pt@[85.243.166.193]) (envelope-sender ) by mta14 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Mar 2008 19:37:59 -0000 Message-ID: <00bc01c87c9c$f8340400$6501a8c0@TORRE> From: "Henrique Pessoa" To: References: <009401c87ae1$0f703020$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <006801c87b91$9ab77d90$0301a8c0@g3kev> <88d2415e0803010631w71fa0de3hd50725d6c2ae236a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:38:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C87C9C.F7F0E080" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C87C9C.F7F0E080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 May I join to what Laurie G3AQC said about the usefulness of John's GM4S= LV graber. It is indeed a remarkable contribution to help those who either intend to go into LF and the many ot= hers who for one reason or another are unable to do it.If one uses the grabber linked to the advice and the many=20= useful tips coming almost everyday on the forum,=20 one can easely perceive the size of the audience it can reach. I for one wish more grabbers available 73's de Henrique CT1HX - IM54GR From: lawrence mayhead=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz I cannot agree ! I use this grabber all the time and find it very useful. Sometimes during the day there is no signal but then I am on the south coa= st, a long way away. At night no problem, so John please keep up the good work= . Laurie G3AQC On 01/03/2008, mal wrote: Jay This grabber is not reliable. I do not see G acty either not even my own= signal when in fact I am getting good reports inter UK and xband from EU. It is too far north away from the majority of G acty. The RX antenna cou= ld be the problem. 73 de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jay Rusgrove=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz David Yes, I do check the Shetland grabber - don't normally see that much G=20= activity though. An east coast US grabber would be nice - unfortunately most= of the east coast stations also do quite a bit of transmitting making even=20= part time grabber operation problematic.=20 Will be keeping an eye open for T/A signals. Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: G0MRF@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz Hi Jay,=20 You'll be able to watch all the European activity in near real time=20= via the grabber in the Shetland isles. Obviously narrow bandwidths work bes= t and although beacons are generally at the 503.5 to 504k section of the ban= d, there are still a few station who presumably using crystal control who ar= e further down the allocation. Any signs of life on your screen can be quickly checked against: Shetland grabber=20 Unfortunately there seems to be no equivalent on the East coast of t= he USA or in VO1 for us to see if our signals are making it over to you. So=20= it's a little more hit and miss for us. - But with a little effort I'm sure=20= a two way TA contact will happen fairly soon. 73 David In a message dated 29/02/2008 11:28:49 GMT Standard Time, jrusgrove@= comcast.net writes: Mal...and other T/A enthusiasts I'm interested in additional W / EU contacts on 500 kHz. To date t= he only=20 station I've worked is Finbar ... albeit on three occassions. It w= ould be=20 helpful if those interested would run periods in beacon mode (norm= al cw=20 speed) so that I can listen for your signals. If I can hear your s= tation,=20 you should be able to hear mine...with the higher ERP from this en= d.=20 Setting up a sked for a particular night at a particular time is u= nlikely to=20 produce a QSO - conditions vary widely from day to day, hour to ho= ur and=20 even minute to minute over this path. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1303 - Release Date: 28/02= /2008 12:14 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 01-03-200= 8 17:41 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C87C9C.F7F0E080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  ----- Original Message -----=20=
May I join  to what Laurie G3= AQC said=20 about  the usefulness of John's GM4SLV graber. It is indeed a=20 remarkable
contribution to help those wh= o either=20 intend to go into LF and the many others who for one reason or another=20 are
unable to do it.If one uses=20 the grabber linked to the advice and the many useful tips=20 coming almost everyday on the forum, 
one can easely perceive=20= the size=20 of  the audience it can reach.
I for one wish more grab= bers=20 available
 73's de Henrique CT1HX&= nbsp;-=20 IM54GR
lawrence mayhead
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:31= =20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz

I cannot agree ! I use this grabber all the time and find i= t=20 very useful.
Sometimes during the day there is no signal but then I am=20= on=20 the south coast,
a long way away. At night no problem, so John please k= eep=20 up the good work.
Laurie G3AQC

On 01/03/2008, = mal=20 <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>= =20 wrote:
Jay
This grabber is not reliable. I do not see G acty either not even m= y=20 own signal when in fact I am getting good reports inter UK and xban= d=20 from EU.
It is too far north away from the majority of G acty. The RX antenn= a=20 could be the problem.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Jay Rusgrove
<= /SPAN>
Sent:=20 Friday, February 29, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject:=20 Re: LF: TA on 500kHz

David
 
Yes, I do check the Shetland grabber - don't normally s= ee=20 that much G activity though. An east coast US grabber would be nice -=20 unfortunately most of the east coast stations also do quite a bit of=20 transmitting making even part time grabber operation problematic.
 
Will be keeping an eye open for T/A signals.
 
Jay
 
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 G0MRF@aol.com
Sent:=20 Friday, February 29, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject:=20 Re: LF: TA on 500kHz

Hi Jay,
 
=
You'll be able to w= atch all=20 the European activity in near real time via the grabber in the Shetl= and=20 isles.  Obviously narrow bandwidths work best and although beac= ons=20 are generally at the 503.5 to 504k section of the band, there are st= ill=20 a few station who presumably using crystal control who are further d= own=20 the allocation.
 
=
Any signs of life o= n your=20 screen can be quickly checked against:
 
=
 
=
Unfortunately there= seems to=20 be no equivalent on the East coast of the USA or in VO1 for us to se= e if=20 our signals are making it over to you. So it's a little more hit and= =20 miss for us. - But with a little effort I'm sure a two way TA contac= t=20 will happen fairly soon.
 
=
73
 
=
David
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In a message dated=20= 29/02/2008=20 11:28:49 GMT Standard Time, jrusgrove@comcast.net writes:
Mal...and other T/A enthusiasts

I'm interested in=20 additional W / EU contacts on 500 kHz. To date the only
statio= n=20 I've worked is Finbar ... albeit on three occassions. It would be=20
helpful if those interested would run periods in beacon mode=20 (normal cw
speed) so that I can listen for your signals. If I=20= can=20 hear your station,
you should be able to hear mine...with the=20 higher ERP from this end.
Setting up a sked for a particular n= ight=20 at a particular time is unlikely to
produce a QSO - conditions= =20 vary widely from day to day, hour to hour and
even minute to=20 minute over this path.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2
&nbs= p;

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