X-GM-THRID: 1242797033417085680 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs683580hue; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr3095288buf.1185281100503; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f8si8442929nfh.2007.07.24.05.44.54; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IDJi2-0001mv-5c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:41:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IDJi1-0001mm-Hq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:41:49 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IDJhz-0007B6-Sg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:41:49 +0100 X-Trace: 9747246-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: -3.0 X-RemoteIP: 88.106.35.20 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=LA2STMBXAAAA:8 a=gv9mIdRiSKMZhH1kLuYA:9 a=Uc3JHhwJy3eRzV0mG1IA:7 a=zBbCm3YB9nVuygNnIWedcPgoIHkA:4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.16,574,1175468400"; d="scan'208";a="9747246" Received: from 88-106-35-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.35.20]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 24 Jul 2007 13:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <00b701c7cdef$fe09ee50$14236a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <46A5CACB.23794.BDD9AF@dave.davesergeant.com>, <46A5DAC7.6437.FC4A8C@dave.davesergeant.com> <003401c7cddf$3531b680$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:41:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.264 Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 833 Hi All, I do agree with Alan & John, there is room for all modes of operation & as it is an experimental allocation we do need to assess all permitted modes under many various conditions. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "John GM4SLV" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... > > Gents, > > There seems to be room for everyone, even in 3kHz, given that beacons > (both QRSS and CW) can all sit quite happily crowded together, leaving > room for QSOs in the rest of the band. > > Perhaps a gentlemanly bandplan can be agreed upon? Given that we have > the SM and DL beacons at 505+ how about concentrating our beacons up in > the top 500Hz or so? That way the bottom half of the band would be > empty enough for QSOs with wide RX filters and the beacons could all be > seen at once on an Argo screen? > > There must be room for the various "experiments" that we're all supposed > to be doing - some of which quite rightly involve long-period beaconing > as a tool for propagation studies that random QSOs would struggle to > provide enough data for. > > Just my thoughts, as a remote station I like the fact that there is > always something potentially to receive, even though for 99% of the time > I see nothing. > > Regards, > > John GM4SLV > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alan Melia wrote: > >> Come on Dave.......if he hadn't been beaconing you wouldnt have known you >> could hear him !! Surely there are enough 200Hz slots on the band to move >> to >> for QSOs. We can do without snide comments, we all know your feelings and >> we >> all have to exist on the band together ... "experimenting" .... which is >> what the permit was granted for. Your problem only occurs for a few miles >> around Dave's location he is transmitting very low power, what about the >> rest of us who have a quiet band at the moment? >> >> Alan G3NYK >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dave Sergeant >> To: >> Sent: 24 July 2007 10:56 >> Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... >> >> >> > On 24 Jul 2007 at 10:26, Michael Probert wrote: >> > >> > > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear? >> > >> > Well I can copy you well (539) in the gaps of G0MRF's beacon (on >> > about 503.75). Both well inside even my 200Hz filter.... band ain't >> > wide enough for all these beacons if we are to leave some room for >> > actual QSOs... >> > >> > 73 Dave G3YMC >> > >> > http://www.davesergeant.com >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >