X-GM-THRID: 1201092871102915278 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f6858993c837320b2c419d2400760722335cf76b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs21636wra; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.18 with SMTP id t18mr555751nfl; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l32si182711nfa.2006.04.20.08.30.56; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FWb4U-0006Lx-T5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:27:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FWb4U-0006Lo-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:27:54 +0100 Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FWcOP-0001t8-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:52:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 5557 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2006 15:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (peter.martinez@btinternet.com@81.159.158.18 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2006 15:27:51 -0000 Message-ID: <00b401c6648e$fd005970$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "Peter Martinez" To: References: <6.1.0.6.2.20060419144651.02a19240@127.0.0.1> <5.1.0.14.0.20060419162451.02431a98@u0019445.kuleuven.be> <6.1.0.6.2.20060419171908.02a17870@127.0.0.1> <000a01c663e3$9600aaf0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:27:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.479 Subject: Re: LF: Top load coil at ground level? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6679 >From G3PLX: Dick's diagrams do look puzzling if you look at them literally, so I can sympathise with Jim, but try it this way... The capacitance hat is on the top. In stage 1 of the thought experiment, there is a loading coil between the hat and the top of the antenna. Nobody should have any problems so far. Now I remove the two terminals of the coil and in it's place at the top of the antenna I connect one end of a length of coax, with the outer braid to the top of the antenna and the inner to the top hat. I run this coax down the antenna. Maybe I thread it down INSIDE the antenna so that Jim doesn't know it's there! At the bottom of the coax I connect my loading coil. The voltage across the loading coil will be high of course, so I need to be careful about the voltage rating of the coax, but there will be no RF on the outside of the braid, so I can fasten it to the antenna all the way down. I could even ground the bottom of the antenna (and the bottom of the coax), and feed the transmitter into a link winding on the coil. One end of the coil is grounded and so is the coax. You only need to redraw it slightly and you have Dexter's antenna. To reduce the voltage that needs to be handled by the coax. I could put most of the loading coil at the top where I started, and then all I need at the bottom is some variable inductance to tune down the band. This variable inductance is still effectively at the top, and there is NO high voltage at the bottom of the antenna. It looks like I have a loading coil and a hat (a very small antenna?) mounted on the top of a tower, but of course it's really a top-loaded tower. Read all the controversy about the EH antennas on the antenna reflectors. Read G3LNP's article about top loaded towers. 73 Peter