Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (rly-mh10.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.146]) by air-mh06.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH064-bfa481f693833f; Mon, 05 May 2008 16:08:38 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh10.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH102-bfa481f693833f; Mon, 05 May 2008 16:08:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt6yl-0004RD-0i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:08:07 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt6yk-0004R4-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:08:06 +0100 Received: from f2phy.netins.net ([167.142.229.65] helo=cgp.netins.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jt6yh-00064s-AS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 21:08:06 +0100 X-netINS-MPP: scanned Received: from [167.142.33.174] (account donnatom@netins.net HELO YOUR4DACD0EA75) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 1674026204 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 15:08:01 -0500 From: "Dr. Tom Gruis" To: Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:08:02 -0500 Message-ID: <00b101c8aeeb$b9400fb0$4100a8c0@YOUR4DACD0EA75> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <6f5efq$bag0ch@ip01.eastlink.ca> Thread-Index: Aciu4HdzoJwhN4pVT0+5nnPeC6A+QgACL4OAAABxUSA= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: RE: Survival Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Well, now that you ask - and this is true - a friend of mine's parents built a bomb shelter back in the early 50s when Stalin was "about to push the button." According to Bill his parents went first rate with heat, cooling, refrigeration, light, ventilation, cooking - all electric, but of course...... I do appreciate this list and check it regularly even though I am inactive here. Thank you es 73, Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Vernon Matheson Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 14:51 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Survival Do we have to build any bunkers to house the pedal communication system in? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 15:43 To: rsgb Subject: LF: Survival For reliable communications all that is required is a pedal cycle with a stormyarcher dynamo hub a simple TX/RX and a pump action CW KEY and a proficient CW OPERATOR. The hardware could be engineered out of scrap and operated by a human. Although convenient we do not need the Internet, satellites or associated systems to communicate, these are vunerable devices and can easily be ZAPPED!!! In the end the basic devices will prevail, easily concealed, therefore hard to find and destroy. G3KEV