Message-ID: <00b001d03ffc$9136a390$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
References: <003501d03e26$e235a430$6401a8c0@JAYDELL> <DCE0AA9DB13D4C49B3AFF99EC98B4A13@AGB> <000601d03e38$098890e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL> <E7D57D2B45B446029BA9961EC46F3D5D@AGB>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:58:38 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
Content-Type: text/plain;
	format=flowed;
	charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Status: O

Yes, we're all aware that the spots are not checked. The problem is PSK Reporter apparently has no 
way to present the ?? from an OPdynamic spot. Since the ?? are not there, the ?? spots  look exactly 
the same as real spots. This is a serious problem as there is no way to tell the difference! 
OPdynamic spots should not be unploaded to PSK Reporter until this problem is corrected. Until it's 
corrected all OP reports obtained from PSK Reporter should be viewed with a great deal of 
skepticism.

I have no clue as to the point you're trying to get across in the rest of your post. It doesn't 
appear relevant to the bigger problem outlined above.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot


> over 10 hours since the
> transmitter was last on
>
> Could  of  been  long path ?
>
> Unfortunately , as  in any mode ,  the uploads to  the  psk-map   are  not
> checked ,
>
> There  is  something  odd  about the  15-07  spot  as   one  is  -42  and
> the  other  -43 ,  must be  x2  opera running  with the  same  audio feed ,
> as there  are   x 2  spots  from the  same call
>
> X 2  Opera  with  same audio  feed  will  produce the  same  results .  in this  case  the  system 
> has  x2  the  same call  from the  same  station , so  looks  to  be  real,
> un expected  condition  , out  side the  operating  envelope
>
> 73-G,
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 3:59 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
>
>> According to PSK reporter I now have a spot from  R7NT as of 1507 UTC ...
>> over 10 hours since the transmitter was last on ... and in broad daylight!
>> Reports generated by PSK reporter do not show ?? ... they appear an any
>> normal spot and might be accepted as such. I, and other folks,  don't
>> leave OP software running 24/7 so how are we to know the spots shown on
>> PSK reporter are real or not? I would say OPdynamic spots should not be
>> forwarded to PSK reporter.
>>
>> Maybe I can apply for an award ... most spots collected without the
>> transmitter even being turned on! ;~)
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
>>
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> -25  over 1000 Miles ,  nice  going  !
>>>
>>> Another  1 dB  [ish]  would  of  triggered  the  opera  decoder with
>>> Mike.. 4 min lag  is spot-on
>>> SP5  is   100%  random  ,  will  of been  flagged    '??'  on the  opera
>>> listing
>>>
>>> 73-G,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sNR mode MHz rxTime senderCallsign senderLocator
>>> receiverCallsignreceiverLocator receiverAntennaInformation submode OPERA
>>> 0.136 01/02/2015 01:05 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every
>>> 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:22 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon
>>> Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:42 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> Beacon Op32 every 00:00-17 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:45 WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:45 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG
>>> FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:00 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-23 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op325 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:38 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-27 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:51 WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:51 WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:55 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:15 WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-23 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:24
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:24 WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:33 WD2XNS FN31LS
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:53 WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:005 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015
>>> 03:56 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32-25 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:56
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op32-31 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:56
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 04:11 WD2XNS
>>> FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 04:29
>>> WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-27 OPERA 0.136
>>> 01/02/2015 04:29 WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op325 OPERA 0.136
>>> 01/02/2015 04:29 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136
>>> 01/02/2015 04:49 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-22
>>> OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 05:02 WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op326 OPERA
>>> 0.136 01/02/2015 05:02 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32-43 OPERA 0.136
>>> 01/02/2015 05:06 WD2XNS FN31LS G3XDV IO91VT Op32_||||_~36dB
>>>
>>> --FALSE---43 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 07:30 WD2XNS FN31LS SP5XSB KO02LD RX
>>> Op32--------------------------------------------------
>>> From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 1:56 PM
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Subject: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
>>>
>>>> In checking last night's spots for WD2XNS ... the spot by SP5XSB occured
>>>> after the WD2XNS transmitter had been off for over two hours. Please
>
>