Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.142]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-869a4c89560c268; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:47:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (unknown [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F3CA138000093; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Otmcb-0001nX-4i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:17:21 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OtmcQ-0001nK-La for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:17:10 +0100 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OtmcP-0001rJ-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:17:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAALQiExcEYOv/2dsb2JhbACDGZ4DcbAikVGESXQEgVmLWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,341,1280703600"; d="scan'208,217";a="323578808" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.17.131.175]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 09 Sep 2010 20:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: <00b001cb5053$9399f800$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <009001cb504d$39b9e8a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C892C46.4080807@o2.ie> <2A320162D5CC43E59865BA5CDFD943CF@AGB> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:16:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time base Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CB505B.F5279890" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4c89560a45e3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CB505B.F5279890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Game over before it began!!!! Not for me g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time base Assuming this is right .. qrss 600 will have a dit length of= 600 seconds =3D 10 minuets and at 3:1 dit/dash dash =3D 30 minuet= s , it would take over 1 hour to invite the other side to TX ..= .the sun would be shining by then and game over ! Not often but this time may be its One , Nill to the elder stat= esman=20 G .. QRSS keying, you can convert QRSS times to WPM by using the formula= WPM =3D1.2 / (Dit Length in Seconds). So for QRSS-30 (30 second dit),= you have 0.04 WPM speed From: Tony=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:49 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time base So it's a case of managing to cross the pond .... and then give up= ? Tony, EI8JK. On 09/09/2010 19:31, mal hamilton wrote:=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time base Stefan If you need qrs 600 to communicate GIVE UP, its a ridiculous requ= est, no one has that amount of time to wait for a single digit. Think= how long it would take for a proper QSO. You are a late comer to LF and must understand the oceans have alr= eady been spanned at speeds around QRS 60 and faster. A proper engine= ered station can communicate with the USA and Russia on normal CW. I= have already achieved this on CW and QRS 3. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time base Hello Alberto, I have a question too: Is it possible to add a "QRSS-600" and/or= a "QRSS-300" mode? Many OMs are using your program which does a good= job (just as Rik's QRS program for transmitting). Those who want to= RX a VLF transmission in DFCW-600 cannot do that in ARGO currently.= =20 If it would be easy and no problem for you to give out a new rel= ease, it could be interesting for some :-) Best 73!=20 Stefan/DK7FC =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01CB505B.F5279890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Game over before it began!!!!<= /DIV>
Not for me
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Thursday, September 09,= 2010 8:08=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: : Request fo= r=20 modification of Argo Time base

Assuming this is right .. qrss = ; 600 =20 will  have a  dit  length  of  600 seconds= =3D 10=20 minuets and at  3:1 dit/dash   dash =3D 30 minuets&nb= sp; ,=20 it  would take  over 1 hour to  invite the  othe= r =20 side to  TX ...the  sun would be  shining  by th= en and=20 game over !
 
Not often but this time  may= be=20 its  One , Nill  to  the  elder statesman= =20
 
G ..
 
QRSS keying, you can convert QRSS times to WPM by using the for= mula WPM=20 =3D1.2 / (Dit Length in Seconds). So for QRSS-30 (30 second dit), yo= u have 0.04=20 WPM speed

From: Tony
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time= =20 base

So it's a case of managing to cross the pond .... and= then give=20 up ?

Tony, EI8JK.

On 09/09/2010 19:31, mal hamilton wr= ote:=20
 
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time= =20 base

Stefan
If you need qrs 600 to communicat= e GIVE=20 UP,  its a ridiculous request, no one has that amount of time= to wait=20 for a single digit. Think how long it would take for a proper=20 QSO.
You are a late comer to LF and mu= st understand=20 the oceans have already been spanned at speeds around  Q= RS 60 and=20 faster. A proper engineered station can communicate with the USA= and=20 Russia on normal CW. I have already achieved this on CW= and QRS=20 3.
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September= 09, 2010=20 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Request= for=20 modification of Argo Time base

Hello Alberto,

I have a question too: Is= it possible=20 to add a "QRSS-600" and/or a "QRSS-300" mode? Many OMs are using= your=20 program which does a good job (just as Rik's QRS program for=20 transmitting). Those who want to RX a VLF transmission in DFCW-6= 00 cannot=20 do that in ARGO currently.

If it would be easy and no pr= oblem for=20 you to give out a new release, it could be interesting for some= =20 :-)

Best 73!

Stefan/DK7FC






 



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