Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:08 +0100 Received: from ptb-spamcore02.plus.net ([192.168.71.3]) by pih-mxcore07.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPp7A-0001wU-D7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:08 +0100 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpBK-000L28-8H for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.101.77] (helo=pih-mxcore11.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DPpBK-000L25-5t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DPp79-0000VH-SX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DPp6a-0006UI-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DPp6Z-0006U9-RF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:31 +0100 Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.199]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DPp6Y-00008L-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:57:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 18537 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 21:57:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (68.116.172.18) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2005 21:57:20 -0000 Message-ID: <00aa01c54910$32b5b240$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7b.43e60105.2f9d530b@aol.com> <001b01c54910$923cf520$a8048751@w4o8m9> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:57:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 64.202.165.199 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of w1tag.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Wolf qso Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Markus, et al, Jim's comments are absolutely true, but there is one more grain of information needed for transmitting! You must establish a separate sampling rate on the transmit side. A starting point will be the mirror image of the receive rate: if the receive is 8001 Hz, try 7999 for transmitting. The relation in my sound card is not exact, so I advise doing some experimentation. This is tricky if you are keying the transmitter phase directly with the "old" WOLF. The sound card approach should be a little simpler, as you can go by the frequency of your locally-monitored signal, assuming that you are keying the transmitter from another computer, or one with full duplex capability. When properly set up, a locally-monitored signal should show steady "jm" values, indicating no slips in framing, steadily increasing "pm" values, and increasing "q" values. If the "pm" readings jump in steps of 4096, back off the audio feed, as the detector is being overloaded. John Andrews