Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4807 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 19:52:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 19:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16854 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 19:52:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 19:52:39 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Fhjr-0001Nj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:46:07 +0100 Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.130]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Fhjn-0001Ne-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:46:04 +0100 Received: from rci (nas-cbv-2-52-221.dial.proxad.net [212.27.52.221]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 317FC1028FF for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:45:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <00a701c1000c$42e695e0$dd341bd4@rci> From: "f6kaw radio club d'ivry" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: tks to all Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:54:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Alan, Steve, Dick, Alberto, Dave's(both mrf es yxm), Marc, Mike, Reiner... I wish to thank you all for your quick answer and help.... And i totally agree with Steve comments about QRP...In fact, i found the idea of building a qrp tx on LF interesting for one thing : encourage the member of the radio club (and of course anyone who want to join us) to simply begin a new activity which change a little from normal operation : build themselves with their "big fingers", and practise a lot to understand how does it works !!!!! (i use to be very kind in QRPconstructions !!!)... I think that it's certainly better to begin a new activity with qrp to test in local (20 kms arround, not more, hi !!!), and have a chance to complete a qso and compare our diverse homebrew projects (learn how to build coil and variometer, and above all how to use it correctly; perform antennas in our small "parisian's garden", hi !!, and so on....), and then , keep on going to more power and biggest antennas for DX.....This could help to develop 136khz in our zone... Keep in mind that we are really NEWBIES !!! i think that we will have to open some books (and destroy some calculators, hi !!!) to follow your steps...without being electrocuted by a flashing light !!!......( no, i'm joking !!!!)... The next step will be the construction of the PA ( DAVE'style at ab.250Wtts)....When we will be ready to transmit, i think that our principal trafic will be in normal CW to simplify the things....QRSS, DFCW and other modes later as we are often "outside" (i mean "FIELDDAY", see the photographs on our website when we tried 10ghz ATV with GUNN diode from Jean-paul, F5EJZ's boat in Normandy)..... Thanks also for the infos about the loop...I have a piece of KX4 (same thing that RG213, i believe ???), so, i'm going to have a try on it...As my holidays begin within 2 weeks, i don't think that i will have enough time to be really qrv, but i will take my little 50 mhz converter, and have a try on this band from JN16LU in center FRANCE, near BOURGES first; and then, from JN23?? in NIMES (dept. 30)...Any takers ???... Question just for info: UTOPY: a 1/4 lambda dipole (say abt 2*500mtrs at 60 mtrs high) would it be easier to tune and the performance better, or would it be too low (ground capacity) and impossible to tune ???????? Sorry for this long mail, i promise to reduce a little next time, hi !!!!...Thanks again to all and hope to hear u soon...Pascal.. PS (in french): Salut ,Marc...bien content d'avoir de tes nouvelles car j'avais perdu l'adresse de ton site...De nouvelles bidouilles LF en cours ???? 73's et a bientot.... Radio club: http://f6kaw.free.fr/ mail: http://f6kaw@free.fr/ http://f5pnp@free.fr/