Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (rly-mb07.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.165]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB063-d1a4b3729ac380; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:32:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB076-d1a4b3729ac380; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:32:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NOpTG-0001Vo-V7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:31:30 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NOpTG-0001Vf-44 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:31:30 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NOpTE-0005qz-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:31:30 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Dec 2009 09:31:21 -0000 Received: from p5DD35F1A.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.211.95.26] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 27 Dec 2009 10:31:21 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+yXwtVHIuyD08dJ+fs28Y9ZIRdrs1uoi7OFeKzvm bZQxIXvRUmABaq Message-ID: <00a101ca86d7$5998fed0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <20091226.144128.11516.4.cw4ever4@juno.com> <007601ca86d3$2b3670d0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:31:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.46,0.45 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA86DF.B8C7A0C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA86DF.B8C7A0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LF, Sorry,my last email (see also below) was not intended to be sent to the list, but to DF6MK. I would not post in German language on an anglophone reflector although I've noticed great tolerance on this list in this respect. Anyway,I've also noted the <...> decodes a few times while spotting WD2XSH/17 and was a bit surprised,too, but then correct decodes took place. It seems that WSPR2.0 still cannot write callsigns like WD2XSH/17 into the blue window in the upper right corner of the WSPR window. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Clemens Paul To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Hallo Werner, genau die zitierte Passage aus dem untenstehen Txt traf bei mir ein paar Mal auch zu. >It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send >the full call, grid, and power. You may see decodes that look like > <...> followed by the grid and/or power. WSPR has not decoded the call >yet but only the second part of the complete message. With a marginal >signal and fades, this may be all you will get. I don't know how long it >stores the second half (or the first half) of the message to splice it 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert H Reif To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Hello, Graham, Rik, and All, Joe K1JT was kind enough to modify the WSPR program to accommodate our long calls with the /. It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send the full call, grid, and power. You may see decodes that look like <...> followed by the grid and/or power. WSPR has not decoded the call yet but only the second part of the complete message. With a marginal signal and fades, this may be all you will get. I don't know how long it stores the second half (or the first half) of the message to splice it together. Joe also added the CW ID feature to version 2.0 which is required by our experimental license. He has been very supportive of our 600 meter efforts. The set up here is 100 watts to a wire, 35 ft inverted L with two top loading wires each about 100 ft long. I am really surprised (and pleased) to get across with this setup. I am inland from the coast and the path to Eu is over land till the path goes over salt water off the coast of New Brunswick, Canada. Want to raise the antenna a bit more and increase the top loading but that may not happen till spring now. 73 and Happy New Year. Bob WD2XSH/37 FN42fo On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:34:15 +0100 Rik Strobbe writes: > Graham, Rick, Bob, > > I guess that when the CW id of a WSPR station is audible there > should > be solid copy in WSPR. > But, as mentioned by Bob, WSPR 2.0 was used to transmit the unusual > > WD2XSH/37 callsign. I noticed that older version of WSPR do not copy > > this properly, even when the signal is strong. > I have been running WSPR2 and WSPR1.1 simultaniously for some days > > (the first spotting as ON7YD the other as OR7T) and noticed that > WD2XSH/37 produced all kinds of odd messages with WSPR1.1. WSPR2 > decodes OK. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Graham : > > > Rick, > > > > Looks like wd2x .. was the station .. you can check what > stations are > > operating at : http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots > > > > 2009-12-24 03:38 WD2XSH/37 0.503912 -26 0 FN42fo 2 > ON7YD > > JO20ix 5615 52 > > > > G.. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:39 AM > > To: > > Subject: LF: "WA" beacon received at 503kHz. > > > >> > >> Using WSPR, I heard "WA" beacon in CW or QRSS at around 503kHz. > >> The signal was visible on the screen during last night. > >> Please let me know the callsign and the QTH? > >> Rick > >> -- > >> -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > >> URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=yi9iW2lTPi_FlJuAPbZNdQAAJ1D5rfaR-77IPsUFbn2LcZ2XAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. 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LF,
 
Sorry,my last email (see also be= low) was not=20 intended to be sent to the list, but to
DF6MK.
I would not post in German langu= age on an=20 anglophone reflector although
I've noticed great tolerance on this= list in this=20 respect. 
 
Anyway,I've also noted the  <...> decodes a few times= =20 while
spotting WD2XSH/17 and was a bit surprised,too,
but then correct decodes took place.
It seems that WSPR2.0 still cannot write callsigns like WD2XSH/17=  into=20 the
blue window in the upper right corner of the WSPR window.&nb= sp;
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 20= 09 10:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon= & WSPR=20 2.0

Hallo Werner,
 
genau die zitierte Passage aus dem= untenstehen=20 Txt traf bei mir
ein paar  Mal auch zu.<= /DIV>
 
 >It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send
>t= he full=20 call, grid, and power.  You may see decodes  that look=20 like
>  <...> followed by the grid and/or power.&nb= sp; WSPR=20 has not decoded the call
>yet but only the second part of the= complete=20 message. With a marginal
>signal and fades, this may be all yo= u will=20 get.  I don't know how long it
>stores the second half (o= r the=20 first half) of the message to splice it
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob= ert H Reif=20
Sent: Saturday, December 26= , 2009 8:41=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beaco= n & WSPR=20 2.0

Hello, Graham, Rik, and=20 All,
       Joe K1JT was kind eno= ugh to=20 modify the WSPR program to accommodate
our long calls with the= /. =20 It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send
the full call, gri= d, and=20 power.  You may see decodes  that look like
<...&g= t;=20 followed by the grid and/or power.  WSPR has not decoded the= =20 call
yet but only the second part of the complete message. With= a=20 marginal
signal and fades, this may be all you will get. = I don't=20 know how long it
stores the second half (or the first half) of= the=20 message to splice it
together.  Joe also added the = CW ID=20 feature to version 2.0 which is
required by our experimental=20 license.  He has been very supportive of our
600 meter=20 efforts. 
     The set up here is 100= watts to=20 a  wire, 35 ft inverted L with two
top loading wires each= about 100=20 ft  long.  I am really surprised (and
pleased) to get= across=20 with this setup.  I am inland from the coast and
the path= to Eu is=20 over land till the path goes over salt water off the
coast of= New=20 Brunswick, Canada.  Want to raise the antenna a bit more=20 and
increase the top loading but that may not happen till sprin= g=20 now. 
     73 and Happy New Year.&nbs= p;=20 Bob  WD2XSH/37  FN42fo



On Sat, 26 Dec 20= 09=20 18:34:15 +0100 Rik Strobbe
<Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>=20 writes:
> Graham, Rick, Bob,
>
> I guess that= when the CW=20 id of a WSPR station is audible there
> should 
&g= t; be=20 solid copy in WSPR.
> But, as mentioned by Bob, WSPR 2.0 was= used to=20 transmit the unusual 
>
> WD2XSH/37 callsign.= I noticed=20 that older version of WSPR do not copy
> 
> thi= s=20 properly, even when the signal is strong.
> I have been runn= ing WSPR2=20 and WSPR1.1 simultaniously for some days 
>
>= (the first=20 spotting as ON7YD the other as OR7T) and noticed that 
&g= t;=20 WD2XSH/37 produced all kinds of odd messages with WSPR1.1. WSPR2&n= bsp;=20
> decodes OK.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T>=20
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>=20
> > Rick,
> >
> > Looks like  wd2= x=20 ..   was the  station .. you  can  check= what=20
> stations are
> > operating at :  http://wsprnet.org/d= rupal/wsprnet/spots
>=20 >
> > 2009-12-24 03:38   WD2XSH/37 &nbs= p;=20 0.503912   -26   0   FN42fo &nb= sp;=20 2  
> ON7YD
> > JO20ix  =20 5615   52
> >
> > G..
> >
= > >=20 --------------------------------------------------
> > Fr= om: "Rick=20 Wakatori" <7= l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>
>=20 > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:39 AM
> > To:= <rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org>
>=20 > Subject: LF: "WA" beacon received at 503kHz.
> >
= >=20 >>
> >> Using WSPR, I heard "WA" beacon in CW or= QRSS at=20 around 503kHz.
> >> The signal was visible on the scre= en during=20 last night.
> >> Please let me know the callsign and= the=20 QTH?
> >> Rick
> >> --
> >> -.= . . =20 --...  .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-.
> >> 7L1RLL= under=20 ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP)
> >>=20 URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html
> >&= gt; -..---=20 -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-.
> >>
>= =20 >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >>=20 >
>
>
>
>
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