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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:430403776:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d310.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ce4eb9b2a4053b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Warren and Laurence I wonder how they will deal with the contract they have with NPL to transmit a dirtibution of a standard frequency and time and utility data! This has 5 years to run I think. The transmitter no longer belongs to the BBC anyway! It is run by Crown-Castle Comms (last time I had contact) and probbly owned by them now. Unlike Orfordness it is probably a desirable development site for domestic housing....if there was any market ! I might email my contact at NPL and see what he says. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: Radio 4 Long Wave to close.... (soon?) Laurence, Its a pity that Droitwich is closing down. The accompanying article is filled with factual misstatements, I don't know whether that is due to ignorance or a desire to mislead: " 500 kilowatts of power, far more - according to the BBC - than other long wave transmitters, which makes the kit both unique and expensive. " Actually this is less than other longwave transmitters such as Europe 1! And it is not unique! "Whenever the valves fail a dangerous "arc of power" surges through the 700ft Droitwich transmission masts." ???? What does that mean? "Building a new long-wave transmitter for Radio 4 would cost "many millions of pounds" Many millions ? I doubt that they sought a quote! Even the Director of Radio 4 seems to have been appointed with the intention of shutting it down as opposed to running it as an ongoing operation. 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Laurence KL7UK wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/09/bbc-radio4-long-wave-goodbye > > Apologies if this is old news - but it takes time for the messenger pidgeons > to reach Okie > > > Laurence KL7UK remote 5 > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1