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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:14:15 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF CW center of activity??
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Gerhard
You have done well on VLF.
Why have operators from 29 countries gone QRT this past few years if=
 LF is
so progressive and wonderful. I am not the only one that thinks LF is=
 a
waste of time !!!!!!!!!!!!!! these days.

mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerhard Hickl" <gerhard.hickl@aon.at>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF CW center of activity??


> Mal!
>
> In the end it's up to you....weather you quit activity on LF or not.
>
> Though I like some of your controversial opinions, I also do not agr=
ee
> with all of them....this is what a discussion is about.
>
> LF and the modes used as well as many other things in our lives have
> changed recently. No matter if we appreciate or not....it is a fact!
>
> There are some people around who are very active and they are puttin=
g a
> lot of effort into their hobby as I do! So speaking about "no progre=
ss"
> just does not seem right to me!
>
>
>
> 73 es gl
> OE3GHB
> Gerhard
>
>
>
> Am Sonntag, den 22.05.2011, 18:44 +0100 schrieb mal hamilton:
> > Stefan
> > I am considering going QRT on LF.
> > You cannot hear me on CW with 1w erp nor can you hear PA0A with 80=
0
> > watts/1w erp, I can hear you and others but the majority are on Be=
acon
> > mode qsl via email,  and I only am interested in QSO mode, so ther=
e is
> > no point me continuing to TX.
> > I can work into i5 and OH winter or summer on cw so there is a pro=
blem
> > with most operators currently on LF on RX mode, either receivers
> > or Antennas are not adequate for the job. I have perfected my stat=
ion
> > TX/RX and Antennas but unfortunately others have made no progress=
 over
> > the past couple of years and the CW has got worse, if anything the
> > norm is now QRP and qsl via email with no effort to engage in a QS=
O,
> > also some are trying to promote WSPR unattended auto communication=
s,
> > where no skill is required and not for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > de mal/g3kev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer
> >         To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >         Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:04 PM
> >         Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF CW center of activity??
> >
> >
> >         Mal, LF,
> >
> >         Am 22.05.2011 14:43, schrieb mal hamilton:
> >         > Stefan es Co
> >         > The procedure in the past was to use CW anywhere on the=
 137
khz band and
> >         > then Tune the band after a CQ for a reply, this is what=
 I do
because
> >         > everybody has their antenna resonated on a different fre=
quency
and it avoids
> >         > working off resonance, which is not recommended with HI=
 Q
antenna systems
> >         > and high power.
> >         > 136.5 khz was used by those with the Ropex TX xtal contr=
olled
on that
> >         > frequency, then they would tune the band for replies for=
 those
with VFO ctl,
> >         > also avoid QRM.
> >         >
> >         OK, tnx, info.
> >         > In the beginning and for some years the only mode used=
 was CW
then QRS was
> >         > introduced and later Beacons.
> >         > Since the introduction of QRS and Beacons the LF populat=
ion
has dropped from
> >         > over 30 active countries and over 100 radio operators to
virtually Nil at
> >         > present.
> >         >
> >         Generate an optimistic view! You have a good station, so=
 just
> >         be QRV often and bring up some signals that can be receive=
d by
> >         new upcoming stations.
> >         Beacon transmissions are interesting (e.g. for watching th=
e
> >         QRN behaviour) and give some signals for those optimising
> >         their RX and so on. But (i agree that) a real "CQ..." is
> >         rather a motivation than just a suffix.
> >         Since i am QRV again with a fixed antenna (and during the=
 /p
> >         activities) i got several emails from people receiving me,=
 who
> >         are not member of the reflector (probably) and still canno=
t
> >         transmit. Usually people start receiving on LF, TXing come=
s
> >         after that. If there is not even a ham generated signal th=
at
> >         can be received, why should people start to build a TX? If
> >         there is some activity (maybe adding the locator sometimes=
, to
> >         give the only-RX-stations some information about the
> >         distance), new people may come up here.
> >         A new active generation, this is what i want to work for!
> >
> >         73,Stefan/DK7FC
>
>
>