Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from mtain-dk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.10]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-b4f54d6960ae1df; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1E92B380000D9; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PtQcf-0000o0-D4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:20:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PtQce-0000nr-SM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:20:12 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>) id 1PtQcb-0007Z7-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:20:12 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AggBAMfuaE1Z8nyH/2dsb2JhbACUBQODbY5RdLsXhWEEgWuOCoJ6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,232,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="469769866" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.242.124.135]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2011 20:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: <009b01cbd5f2$8af4ebe0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <4D68D656.11240.29D4BD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <AANLkTik+J9S+bDp58+Upu4Uc5GyfYnph+DcrfQO-sRbj@mail.gmail.com> <000b01cbd5a7$6505ba40$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:19:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01CBD5F2.8A9F2AC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db40a4d6960ac0bdc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CBD5F2.8A9F2AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay=20 At present 2016 gmt Reports at the RN3AGC qth G3KEV 20 dB snr PA0A 11 dB=20 HE3OM 30 dB - 10 dB advantage over me and WPC WPC 20 dB No others visible at present mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:22 AM Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Toni What is your projected start time? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HB9ASB=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:44 AM Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Thank you Mike we will try again tonight and JA7NI will switch to QRSS30. 73 de Toni 2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com> Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA da= wn.. UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See attached. Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which shows= that DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete wit= h HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us. The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a prac= tical speed for real DX. There are long periods where the signal is we= ll above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign being recei= ved. At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been viable an= d allowed a couple of full calls to be read. Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record= on 136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs= have available. Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format= . If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant syste= m, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer= . If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistan= ce. ---- File information ----------- File: DX_at_RN3AGC.jpg Date: 26 Feb 2011, 10:14 Size: 16113 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format= . If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant syste= m, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer= . 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Type: JPEG-image ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CBD5F2.8A9F2AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-88= 59-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Jay </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>At present 2016 gmt</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Reports at the RN3AGC qth</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>G3KEV 20 dB snr</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PA0A 11 dB </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>HE3OM 30 dB - 10 dB advantage over= me and=20 WPC</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>WPC 20 dB</= FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No others visible at present</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px= ; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"= > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:= black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Djrusgrove@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:jrusgrove@comcas= t.net">jrusgrove@comcast.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 26,= 2011 11:22=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: HE3OM in JA<= /DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Toni</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is your projected start time?<= /FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/= 2=20 </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARG= IN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV= > <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-co= lor: black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dhb9asb@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:hb9asb@gmail.com">HB9AS= B</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 26= , 2011 5:44=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: HE3OM in= JA</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Thank you Mike<BR>we will try again tonight and JA7= NI will=20 switch to QRSS30.<BR>73 de Toni<BR><BR> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&= lt;<A href=3D"mailto:mike.dennison@ntlworld.com">mike.dennison@n= tlworld.com</A>></SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex;= MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">L= ast=20 night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA dawn..<= BR>UA4WPF=20 can also be seen, but much weaker than previously.=20 See<BR>attached.<BR><BR>Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC= 's grabber=20 which shows that<BR>DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we= could not=20 compete with<BR>HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on=20 us.<BR><BR>The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is= not a=20 practical<BR>speed for real DX. There are long periods where the= signal is=20 well<BR>above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign bei= ng=20 received.<BR>At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still= been viable=20 and<BR>allowed a couple of full calls to be read.<BR><BR>Congrat= ulations=20 to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record on<BR>136, thoug= h with an=20 estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs=20 have<BR>available.<BR><BR>Mike, G3XDV<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D<BR><BR>The following=20 section of this message contains a file attachment<BR>prepared= for=20 transmission using the Internet MIME message format.<BR>If you= are using=20 Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system,<BR>you should= be able to=20 save it or view it from within your mailer.<BR>If you cannot, pl= ease ask=20 your system administrator for assistance.<BR><BR> ---- Fil= e=20 information -----------<BR> File:=20 DX_at_RN3AGC.jpg<BR> Date: 26 Feb 2011,= =20 10:14<BR> Size: 16113 bytes.<BR> = Type:=20 JPEG-image<BR><BR>The following section of this message co= ntains a=20 file attachment<BR>prepared for transmission using the Internet= MIME=20 message format.<BR>If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other= =20 MIME-compliant system,<BR>you should be able to save it or view= it from=20 within your mailer.<BR>If you cannot, please ask your system adm= inistrator=20 for assistance.<BR><BR> ---- File information -----------<= BR> =20 File: HE3OM_at_JA7NI.jpg<BR> Date: &nb= sp;26 Feb=20 2011, 10:17<BR> Size: 38621 bytes.<BR> = =20 Type:=20 JPEG-image<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUO= TE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01CBD5F2.8A9F2AC0--