Return-Path: Received: (qmail 53560 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2004 11:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2004 11:34:51 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4Hms-000D6Y-8r for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:35:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4Hms-000D6V-6E for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:35:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1C4Hlo-00015r-Av for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:34:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1C4HlL-0007wG-Tf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:34:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1C4HlL-0007w7-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:34:19 +0100 Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.43]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1C4HlG-00014K-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:34:19 +0100 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.84.91]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040906113237.PUCF4727.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@captbrian> for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:32:37 +0100 Message-ID: <009601c49405$e78029a0$08540150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c49402$4eb5cfc0$edce28c3@erica> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:37:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 62.253.162.43 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Save energy, but generate QRM ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) The fact is that some do and some do not cause HF interference. I have not checked every one at LF. . I have several that are satisfactory and two that are not. The problem is not with one's own house, where baddies can be switched off,but with 'them' next door. G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: g3ldo To: Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 12:11 PM Subject: LF: Re: Save energy, but generate QRM ... > Jean-Louis F6AGR said: > > > Let me introduce to you a new candidate to the "Ugliest 137 kHz QRM > > generator Challenge". > > I'm talking about the Philips SL.E Pro 16W Warm White light bulb. > > This light bulb (quite expensive) saves energy and uses only 16 watts AC > to > > produce the same light as a 100 watts conventional light bulb, but > generates > > an horrible noise (multiple discrete frequency lines) all over the 137 kHz > > band. > > About three years ago I tentitively tried out one of these energy saving > bulbs and didn't find any interference throughout the LF/HF spectrum and > have, over a period introduced more into the house. These bulbs do save a > lot of energy, which is a consideration with cost of energy in this country. > So perhaps we could draw up a list of low energy bulbs that don't cause > interference. > > Most of the bulbs I have are cheap ones from Woolworths and are described as > BIAX V257 made by GE Lighting. > > As regards electronic 'transformers' could the fix be just to replace it > with a conventional transformer? > > Peter, G3LDO > > >