Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id ABD7B380000AD; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ri7l1-0002MD-Da for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:02:39 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ri7l0-0002M4-Vm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:02:38 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri7ky-0002tL-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:02:38 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuciADM0A09cF/hn/2dsb2JhbABDggWHRqIDgRGBBoFtBQEBBAEIAQEDSQImBgEBAwUCAQMRBAEBCh4HFAEECBIGDQkIBhMKAQICAQGHaQK1Roh1gxoEiASFLAGSQIdF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,450,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="356824851" Received: from host-92-23-248-103.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.248.103]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 03 Jan 2012 17:02:30 +0000 Message-ID: <009401ccca39$773fac70$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898013DCA5FE@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:02:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:435674368:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4054f0334f13209 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Paul Whiskers but no CAT at this QTH. At least the Antenna discussion is now more civilised and humourous apart from Jim Boy and his personal insults and not relevant to the topic discussed. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reeves Paul" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: RE: LF: Antennas > Don't forget, Mal still uses cats whiskers and coherers - that's why he > needs large antennas and keeps on asking everyone to use QRO amplifiers and > antennas that need 2 acres of ground space because he cannot hear them :-) > But more seriously, I rather agree with Andy, unless you need fancy > directional processing for the rx side you only need to be external noise > limited - all the naval systems (that I've dealt with...) use active rx > antennas and serious multicouplers. Tx uses as much metalwork as they can > get up there, generally whips. Subs also use active antenna probes and loops > for vlf (rather a critical area you might think....) - rather less > interested in transmitting though:-) > But it would be nice to have the space and low noise level that Mal seems to > have........ > > Paul G8GJA > -----Original Message----- > From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX [mailto:dexter.mc@gmail.com] > Sent: 03 January 2012 15:02 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Antennas > > What commercial two way LF stations still exist? All that I know of just > transmit. Way back when there was two way LF traffic a high level receive > signal was needed for the cat whisker detector to work :) > > Dex > > This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is > addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary > or covered by legal professional privilege. If you have received this email > in error, please notify the sender upon receipt, and immediately delete it > from your system. > > Anything contained in this email that is not connected with the businesses > of this company is neither endorsed by nor is the liability of this company. > > Whilst we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure that any attachment to > this email has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept liability for any > damage sustained as a result of software viruses, and would advise that you > carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. > >