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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:42:48 -0000
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: TX system at DK7FC, schematic
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Jim es Co
It might be more efficient to use a single wire inv L at 100 ft high with a
vy high Q 4000 coil rather than in my case 3 x inv L antennas with a low Q
coil.
Bandwidth could be a problem.
I always thought the other way round ie plenty of elevated wires and NO coil
if possible, which I could manage by puttng out another few inv L's in
parallel with the existing ones.
I don't see much emphasis on the Earth/Radial systems used in conjunction
with these high Q ant systems.

mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: TX system at DK7FC, schematic


> Dear Mal, LF Group,
>
> > I can see you resonate your 3mH coild with a motor driven variometer but
> > how
> > do you match this to exactly 50 ohmz for a SWR of 1:1 to the TX
> > I can see your coil and transformer secondary are  in series to earth
but
> > no
> > adjustment for matching.
>
> Essentially the same arrangement is in use here. The transformer ratio is
> adjusted to match the antenna resistance to 50ohms.
>
> A Q of 1000 is typical for a coil of this size wound using Litz wire. You
> might increase that somewhat by optimising length, diameter, winding pitch
> etc. For something big like the Balboa loading coil in Alex's mail, Q can
be
> considerably higher - Watt's "VLF Engineering" has data on this particular
> antenna system - the coil resistance at 25kHz is about 0.06ohms, and the
> reactance 225ohms, making the Q about 3800 - it might be higher at 136k,
> since reactance often increases faster than loss resistance as the
frequency
> goes up. Incidentally, I estimate L of the main loading coil about 1.3mH,
so
> GW0EZY would need the variometer in series as well ;-)
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>
>