Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.12]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-5eac4d6d0b901de; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:06:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 480F238000196; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PuR8z-0001ei-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:05:45 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PuR8x-0001eZ-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:05:43 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PuR8v-0000j1-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:05:43 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkAAOqZbE1cHY8U/2dsb2JhbACCTpE5g3COVXS8DYVhBIFsjg2Ceg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,247,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="481683028" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.143.20]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 01 Mar 2011 15:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01cbd822$19d97340$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <842796.49870.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <006901cbd80e$e0120450$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <969875.47411.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:05:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01CBD822.19990EE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600c4d6d0b8d4559 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CBD822.19990EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete Go into QSO mode on 137.7 and get some reports and do not depend on gr= abbers. It looks like you are being seen by several observers at least= around the UK=20 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Hi Gary, Mal and LF Thanks for the info Garry a fine grabber set up and thanks for the= report. I have been sliightly side tracked by the reports for which= I am grateful. However my original plan was to test for how much power I can run= without messing up this ADSL over copper that BT have cobbled up. Its= not a step function because the exchange DSLAMs react slowly dependen= t upon the level and type of noise they see on the line so my test hav= e to be over time. OK Mal thanks for the info .... I lied...... I do have another xtal= on 136.580kc/s I have now QSYed there now...... OK?..... :-) =20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 12:47:50 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Pete Its unfortunate u are rock bound. right on the QSO freq. The trouble= is you are not visible in EU therefore others in QSO mode are calling= CQ on 137.7 unaware that u are there.=20 The Beacon area seems to be around 136.177 plus/minus=20 Your signal is solid with me at this distance. 73 gl de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Hi Dave(34m),Mal(195m) and LF Thanks for the reports. Rig 2W TX RFo/p to ant Inv "L" up abt12m= 35lng W-E.=20 Other reports G4AYT(74m), G6PKS(75m), M0JXM(6m) and G3YXM grabber= nw faded(75m) Tnx to all. It is on for short period mainly to test the effect on ADSL Broadb= and over copper around here. 500kc/s wipes ADSL out with virtually a milliWatt or two but 136= seems OK at this power. Mal it's the only xtal I have but can pull it a few c/s LF. What= is the minimum LF you think I should go please?=20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 19:54:24 Subject: LF: Re: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Not a good idea to Beacon on a busy QSO FREQUENCY.=20 G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave G3WCB.=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: LF: RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN] Dear All, M0FMT captured sending QRSS 10 on 137,700 yesterday. "O" copy.= Pete's signal would have probably been OK in QRSS 3. OH1TN seen in QRSS3 yesterday evening, O>M copy, with QSB. Screenshots attached. 73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM, near Windsor, S.E.England. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 28 February 2011 16:51 To: rsgb Subject: LF: 137.7 acty Yesterday evening OH1TN was active with a strong and audible= signal, not seen for a while. Today FMT is strong also on 137.7. OH1TN was not visible on the EU Grabbers neither is FMT today. Strange condx=20 de G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01CBD822.19990EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete
Go into QSO mode on 137.7 and get some re= ports=20 and do not depend on grabbers. It looks like you are being seen= by several=20 observers at least around the UK 
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011= 2:10=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 137.= 7 acty=20 [M0FMT & OH1TN]

Hi Gary, Mal and LF
 
Thanks for the info Garry a fine grabber set up and thanks for= the=20 report. I have been sliightly side tracked by the reports for which= I am=20 grateful.
 
 However my original plan was to test for how much power= I can run=20 without messing up this ADSL over copper that BT have cobbled up. It= s not a=20 step function because the exchange DSLAMs react slowly dep= endent=20 upon the level and type of noise they see on the line so my tes= t have to=20 be over time.
 
OK Mal thanks for the info .... I lied...... I do have another= xtal on=20 136.580kc/s I have now QSYed there now...... OK?..... :-)
 <= /DIV>73 es=20 GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20


From: mal hamilton= =20 <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011=20 12:47:50
Subject:= Re: LF: Re:=20 RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN]

Pete
Its unfortunate u are rock bound. right on= the QSO freq.=20 The trouble is you are not visible in EU therefore others in QSO mod= e are=20 calling CQ on 137.7 unaware that u are there.
The Beacon area seems to be around 136.177= plus/minus=20
Your signal is solid with me at this=20 distance.
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:= M0FMT
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 20= 11 11:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: 13= 7.7 acty=20 [M0FMT & OH1TN]

Hi Dave(34m),Mal(195m) and LF
 
Thanks for the reports. Rig 2W TX RFo/p to ant Inv= "L" up=20 abt12m 35lng W-E.
Other reports G4AYT(74m), G6PKS(75m), M0JXM(6m= ) and G3YXM=20 grabber nw faded(75m) Tnx to all.
 
It is on for short period mainly to test the effect on= ADSL=20 Broadband over copper around here.
500kc/s wipes ADSL out with virtually a milliW= att or=20 two but 136 seems OK at this power.
 
Mal it's the only xtal I have but can pull it a few c/s LF.&n= bsp;What=20 is the minimum LF you think I should go please? 

 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX


From: mal hamilton= =20 <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011=20 19:54:24
Subject: LF: Re:=20 RE: 137.7 acty [M0FMT & OH1TN]

Not a good idea to Beacon on a busy QSO FR= EQUENCY.=20
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave G3WCB.
Sent: Monday, February 28= , 2011 7:06=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: 137.7 ac= ty [M0FMT=20 & OH1TN]

Dear All,
 
M0FMT captured sending QRSS 10 on 137,700= yesterday. "O" copy.=20 Pete's signal would have probably been OK in QRSS 3.
 
OH1TN seen in QRSS3 yesterday evening, O&g= t;M copy, with=20 QSB.
 
Screenshots attached.
 
73m Dave G3WCB IO91RM, near Windsor,=20 S.E.England.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
Fro= m: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of mal=20 hamilton
Sent: 28 February 2011 16:51
To:= =20 rsgb
Subject: LF: 137.7 acty

Yesterday evening OH1TN was active wit= h a strong=20 and audible signal, not seen for a while. Today FMT is strong= also on=20 137.7.
OH1TN was not visible on the EU Grabbe= rs neither=20 is FMT today.
Strange condx
 
de=20 G3KEV


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