Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.140]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB011-a0764d7a790e9c; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:33:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6297138000128; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Py84t-00011x-DW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:32:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Py84s-00011o-O1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:32:46 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Py84q-0006jk-99 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:32:46 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0AAH4Hek1Ok8Nx/2dsb2JhbACCW5YLjU13wlmFYgSBdI4/ggs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,304,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="340660896" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.195.113]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 2011 19:32:37 +0000 Message-ID: <008b01cbe023$1115a720$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <8CDAC566BD54D9E-C98-93FD@Webmail-m125.sysops.aol.com>,<4D77B7AF.3040104@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> ,<4D79C6A3.3070900@talktalk.net> <4D7A6700.50104@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:32:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: OK2BVG_TX_8970 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01CBE023.10B64910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608c4d7a790c1190 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01CBE023.10B64910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Text zpr=E1vySomething wrong. You are close to Lubos and cannot see any signal but the signal is det= ected in the UK. Maybe so but but without some ID frequency alone is not a Valid confir= mation, a couple of spikes on a screen in meaningless. I am not convinced. I also saw a weak trace that stopped just after 12= 30 but it could be anything. de G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: OK2BVG_TX_8970 Hello Lubos,=20 Sorry, i haven't seen anything it seems. But 600 km by using 25 W at= 8970 Hz would almost be a wonder :-) Go on and good luck 73, Stefan Am 11.03.2011 13:47, schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:=20 Hello Eddie!=20 Thanks, for your receiving! My TX was on from 08:00 to 12:30UT. Di= d you detect my signal? Lubos, OK2BVG ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:52:19 +0000 From: qrss@talktalk.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: OK2BVG_TX_8970 Hi Lubos RX is on this morning awaiting your test. Good Luck Eddie G3ZJO On 10/03/2011 19:08, Lubos OK2BVG wrote:=20 Hello Stefan, Markus, Gerhard and all VLF enthusiasts!=20 I was quite busy during last days, so I am writing just now. Well... I tested my new VLF TX set of the day 5th March. It was= the first test only and I am very pleased, you saw my signal. I expec= ted, it would be poorly visible on the Gerhard=B4s grabber only! In= fact, it was visible with S/N 10dB. Some information: The antenna is my MW Marconi L (24m up), but I increased top loa= d on the value 220m. Generator is Wandel/Goltermann PS30, the finest tuning step 1Hz= (OCXO). PA is Seba Dynatronic 25W out. My loading coil is made from 60l barrel, it contains two fixed= coils 500 + 500 turns of wire 0,4CuL + rotary coil made from 5litre= bucket. I am going to take some photos and give them on my websides at= the weekend. I will let you know, they are there. My next VLF test will be tomorrow (2011-03-11): =20 I will start transmission on 8970 tomorrow morning at 08:00UT.= =20 Than I won=B4t be at home, so TX will transmit to approximately= 12:00UT. It is the best time for VLF TX test, becouse the noise would= be the lowest. Thanks for your encouraging words and help!=20 73! Lubos ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:23:59 +0100 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: VLF: OK2BVG signal in Todmorden Wow, the next one!=20 Lubos, can you tell us about your station? All parameters and da= ta please :-) How strong have you been visible at OE3GHB? Welcome in the VLF TX group ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 09.03.2011 10:49, schrieb Markus Vester:=20 Dear Lubos, LF, beneath is a posting from Paul Nicholson in the Yahoo VLF groo= p. His spectrum from last Saturday morning shows three amateur signals= , including yours. Very good! 73, Markus ________________________________ Re: [VLF_Group] Re: DF6NM on 8970.00=20 Tue Mar 8, 2011 11:54 pm=20 Thanks for the info Markus. > I do not know whether that was really a transmission > from Lubos, or a local pretest from Gerhard. Yes, that long dash was Lubos. OK2BVG was active that morning for a couple of hours. I get this spectrum, (08:00-09:00, 278uHz bins) http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/110308b.gif which has a small peak at 8970Hz - 3.0mHz, bearing east. To bring this out I found the best S/N at bearing 110 and I synthesised a unidirectional cardioid by combining H and E= fields. Only 3.6 sigma unfortunately. Hopefully Lubos will do further tests. He should be visible here with 30uW at 1423km if the tx frequency is stable enough. -- Paul Nicholson -- Re: [VLF_Group] Re: DF6NM on 8970.00=20 Thanks for the info Markus. > I do not know whether that was really a transmission > from Lubos, or a local pretest from Gerhard. Yes, that long dash was Lubos. OK2BVG was active that morning for a couple of hours. I get this spectrum, (08:00-09:00, 278uHz bins) http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/110308b.gif which has a small peak at 8970Hz - 3.0mHz, bearing east. To bring this out I found the best S/N at bearing 110 an= d I synthesised a unidirectional cardioid by combining H= and E fields. Only 3.6 sigma unfortunately. Hopefully Lubos will do further tests. He should be visi= ble here with 30uW at 1423km if the tx frequency is stable= enough. -- Paul Nicholson -- =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01CBE023.10B64910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Text zpr=E1vy
Something wrong.
You are close to Lubos and cannot see any sign= al but the=20 signal is detected in the UK.
Maybe so but but without some ID frequency alo= ne is not a=20 Valid confirmation, a couple of spikes on a screen in meaningless.
I am not convinced. I also saw a weak trace th= at stopped=20 just after 1230 but it could be anything.
 
de G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011= 6:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: OK2BVG_TX_89= 70

Hello Lubos,

Sorry, i haven't seen anything= it seems.=20 But 600 km by using 25 W at 8970 Hz would almost be a wonder :-)
=
Go on=20 and good luck

73, Stefan


Am 11.03.2011 13:47, schr= ieb Lubos=20 OK2BVG:=20
Hello Eddie!=20
Thanks, for your receiving! My TX was on from 08:00 to 12:30U= T. Did you=20 detect my signal?

Lubos, OK2BVG

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:52:19 +0000
From: qrss@ta= lktalk.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Subject:=20 Re: LF: OK2BVG_TX_8970

Hi Lubos
=
RX is on=20 this morning awaiting your test.

Good Luck

Eddie=20 G3ZJO

On 10/03/2011 19:08, Lubos OK2BVG wrote:=20
Hello Stefan, Markus, Gerhard and all VLF enthusiasts!=20
I was quite busy during last days, so I am writing just now= .
Well... I tested my new VLF TX set of the day  5th Mar= ch. It was=20 the first test only and I am very pleased, you saw my signal. I= expected,=20 it would be poorly visible  on the Gerhard=B4s grabber only= ! In fact,=20 it was visible with S/N 10dB.
Some information:
The antenna is my MW Marconi L (24m up), but I increased to= p load on=20 the value 220m.
Generator is Wandel/Goltermann PS30, the finest tuning step= 1Hz=20 (OCXO).
PA is Seba Dynatronic 25W out.
My loading coil is made from 60l barrel, it contains two fi= xed coils=20  500 + 500 turns of wire 0,4CuL + rotary coil made from 5li= tre=20 bucket.

I am going to take some photos and give them on my websides= at the=20 weekend. I will let you know, they are there.

My next VLF test will be tomorrow (2011-03-11):   &nbs= p;
I will start transmission on 8970 tomorrow morning at=20 08:00UT. 
Than I won=B4t be at home, so TX will transmit to approxima= tely=20 12:00UT. It is the best time for VLF TX test, becouse the noise= would be=20 the lowest.

Thanks for your encouraging words and=20 help! 

73!

Lubos

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:23:59 +0100
From: Stefan.Schaefe= r@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subj= ect: Re:=20 VLF: OK2BVG signal in Todmorden

Wow, the next one!
Lu= bos, can=20 you tell us about your station? All parameters and data please= :-)
How=20 strong have you been visible at OE3GHB?

Welcome in the VL= F TX group=20 ;-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 09.03.2011 10:49, schr= ieb Markus=20 Vester:=20
Dear Lubos, LF,
 
beneath is a po= sting from=20 Paul Nicholson in the Yahoo VLF groop. His spectrum from= last=20 Saturday morning shows three amateur signals, including yours.=
 
Very good!
 
73, Markus
 
__________= ______________________
Re: [VLF_Group] Re:= DF6NM on=20 8970.00
Tue Mar 8, 2011= 11:54 pm=20


Thanks for the info Markus.

> I do not= know=20 whether that was really a transmission
> from Lubos, or= a local=20 pretest from Gerhard.

Yes, that long dash was Lubos.OK2BVG=20 was active that morning for a couple of hours.

I get th= is=20 spectrum, (08:00-09:00, 278uHz bins)

http://abel= ian.org/vlf/tmp/110308b.gif

which=20 has a small peak at 8970Hz - 3.0mHz, bearing east.

To= bring this=20 out I found the best S/N at bearing 110 and
I synthesised= a=20 unidirectional cardioid by combining H and E fields.

On= ly 3.6=20 sigma unfortunately.

Hopefully Lubos will do further te= sts. He=20 should be visible
here with 30uW at 1423km if the tx freque= ncy is=20 stable enough.
--
Paul Nicholson
--

Re: [VLF_Group= ] Re: DF6NM=20 on 8970.00


Thanks fo= r the info=20 Markus.

> I do not know whether that was reall= y a=20 transmission
> from Lubos, or a local pretest from= =20 Gerhard.

Yes, that long dash was Lubos.
OK2BVG= was=20 active that morning for a couple of hours.

I get= this=20 spectrum, (08:00-09:00, 278uHz bins)

http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp= /110308b.gif

which=20 has a small peak at 8970Hz - 3.0mHz, bearing east.
To bring=20 this out I found the best S/N at bearing 110 and
I sy= nthesised=20 a unidirectional cardioid by combining H and E fields.
Only=20 3.6 sigma unfortunately.

Hopefully Lubos will do= further=20 tests. He should be visible
here with 30uW at 1423km= if the tx=20 frequency is stable enough.
--
Paul=20 Nicholson
--
=

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